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Train leaves NYC without the passengers!!!!!

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Train leaves NYC without the passengers!!!!!
Posted by CAZEPHYR on Monday, August 4, 2014 8:12 PM

 

 

An Amtrak High-Speed Train Left New York Without Its Passengers

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/an-amtrak-high-speed-train-left-new-york-without-its-passengers-2014-8#ixzz39TXlTVTb

 

An Amtrak Acela Express train left New York's Penn Station over the weekend without its passengers, The New York Daily News reports.

Eighty-five passengers waiting to board the Washington, D.C.-bound high-speed train were left stranded and bemused on the platform when it pulled out of the station without them. In an apparent communication mixup, passengers waiting to board the 3 p.m. train were told to go to one platform as Acela Express 2253 waited at another. In fact, several minutes passed before news of the train's departure even reached the then-stranded passengers. 

"They literally sent us to the wrong platform, and the conductor took off without any passengers," Damien Miano, a stranded passenger told The Daily News. "The right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing. It's just so bizarre." 

According to the paper, stranded passengers were taken to a waiting room at the station, given food, and eventually accommodated on later Amtrak service. 

In a statement to Business Insider, Amtrak apologized for the incident and said it was "investigating the circumstances" surrounding the mishap. 

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, August 4, 2014 9:47 PM

Freight carriers have 'Right Car, Right Train' metrics as a part of their Car Scheduling systems.  Does Amtrak have a 'Right Passenger, Right Train' metric for getting passengers on the train they bought tickets for?

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Posted by ACY Tom on Monday, August 4, 2014 10:24 PM

Semantics rears its ugly head again:  "The train took off without its passengers."  When passengers would ask me what time the train is going to take off, I used to respond "It won't.  We taxi all the way."  Then, after letting that sink in for a moment, I would tell them the departure time.

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Posted by NorthWest on Monday, August 4, 2014 10:35 PM

Amtrak operates Penn Station a lot like an airport, and they open the platform when the train gets there. Sounds like the new crew (crew change point) saw passengers, and assumed the passengers were on the train. Someone at NYP sent the passengers to the wrong platform, and no one realized it until the train had left on schedule.

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, August 4, 2014 10:47 PM

Well, seeing as the train has Canadian heritage, "take off" might have a different sort of meaning...

"It's the beauty way to go" ?

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Posted by pajrr on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:28 AM

I'm Sorry, but if I were a conductor on a train operating on the busiest corridor in the country, I would call upstairs to find out why ABSOLUTELY NO ONE is boarding my train, especially at 3:00pm on a Sunday afternoon.

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Posted by dakotafred on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:04 AM

The Daily News story (or the linked gloss written off of it) makes it sound as if the train did indeed leave with zero passengers aboard, which means it was captained by the most dense (or don't-give-a-damn) conductor around.

TRAINS' Newswire story was more ambiguous, sounding as if possibly "only" 85 passengers had been misdirected. It did not come right out and say the train left empty. (Careless writing.)

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Posted by oltmannd on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:53 AM

pajrr
find out why ABSOLUTELY NO ONE is boarding my train,

It doesn't say that.  It only said 85 pax were left behind.  Apparently, some boarded.

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Posted by oltmannd on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:55 AM

Overmod

Well, seeing as the train has Canadian heritage, "take off" might have a different sort of meaning...

"It's the beauty way to go" ?

OMG.  SCTV. GWN!

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Posted by NorthWest on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:54 AM

From what I have gathered, the train did have passengers, as it was a Boston-DC train. There were approximately 200 passengers waiting, some who got on. There may have been a NJT train unloading on the other side of the platform. Because NYP is a crew change point, I can imagine that the crew has other things to do besides watch the passengers load.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:27 PM

The train arrived in Baltimore nine minutes late, according to Amtrak's site. No time is given as to when it left Baltimore--but it arrived in Washington fifty-eight minutes late.

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Posted by henry6 on Tuesday, August 5, 2014 12:35 PM
Deggesty

The train arrived in Baltimore nine minutes late, according to Amtrak's site. No time is given as to when it left Baltimore--but it arrived in Washington fifty-eight minutes late.

Maybe the Conductor pulled over to the side to find his missing passengers or get chewed out by a supervisor.

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Posted by bo-Jack on Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:16 AM

The big problem here is the way Amtrak mismanages Penn Station New York.  Frequently an arrival or departure is spotted on a track and some or even all the escalators leading to the platform are left running in the wrong direction throughout the passenger boarding/alighting time frame.

Commuter trains of LIRR and NJT are held for boarding until the last minute; resulting in a dense mob that had collected on the concourse storming the gates and often making the departure a few minutes late.   I once heard an Amtrak employee say of a large crowd making one of these last second boardings:  "Heard those passengers down the stairs like cattle and load them on the train like hogs."

In contrast, Chicago's Metra has a policy to have trains spotted on the platform and immediately opened for more leisurely boarding not less than 15 minutes before scheduled departure.

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