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Who will be the successor to the turbo liner?

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Posted by aricat on Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:20 PM

When the United States Air Force became a separate service from the US Army in October of 1947 they adopted the letter F be used for fighter aircraft. Since the Mustang was still considered a front line aircraft they became the F-51 in the USAF instead of the P-51 as they were known in the USAAF. The Mustang was one of the few prop fighters the USAF had in its inventory. The P-47 and P-38 were considered obsolete at the end of World War II.

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:16 AM

Yes, I well remember reading about the planes whose designations began with the letter "P" during the time that they were well known. Even during WWII, they were better known as "fighter," and not "pursuit" planes. I recall very few, if any, references to them as "pursuit" planes. There was the suggestion that they were "phighters."

I was almost six years old when Japan and Germany declared war on the United States.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:07 AM

In honor of my late father, who was escorted in his combat missions by Mustangs, the initial designation was P-51.  They got the F-51 designation after WW2 when Pursuit planes were re-designated as Fighters.  Same thing happened when the P-80 was re-designated F-80.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, July 18, 2014 5:26 PM

Sam1

Many years ago I had an opportunity to ride in a F-51. I learned to fly out of Holywood, FL., in an Aeronca Champ.  An old boy on the field had an F-51 with two seats, and he gave me a ride in it.

 
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 18, 2014 5:08 PM

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What is a P51? Wink Besides an awesome airplane, I think you are thinking of a P42DC or P40DC or even a P32AC-DM. Thanks for finding that, I've heated up the link.

http://www.emdiesels.com/emdweb/products/pdf/2-sidersENG_LTR_proof_rev5RevH.pdf

Anyway, I said a high speed diesel and new coaches because of the unique needs of the Empire Corridor. While the Midwest can get away with bilevel coaches (and that is what they are soliciting bids for), clearances may be a problem in the Northeast. Also, the underground stations must be dealt with by some dual mode operation.  

Practically everyone knows what a P51 was.  It was one of the best pens put out by the Parker Pen Company.

Many years ago I had an opportunity to ride in a F-51. I learned to fly out of Holywood, FL., in an Aeronca Champ.  An old boy on the field had an F-51 with two seats, and he gave me a ride in it. Several years latter, as I remember it, he lost the coolant over southern Alabama and had to put it into a field. By then I had moved to Japan, and I never heard the final outcome of the story.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, July 18, 2014 4:05 PM

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What is a P51? Wink Besides an awesome airplane, I think you are thinking of a P42DC or P40DC or even a P32AC-DM. Thanks for finding that, I've heated up the link.

 

Don't you dare knock the P-40 aircraft.  The flying tigers had a great record against the zeros,  P-40s outperformed P-51s until the 51s got their Merlin engines. The 40 got a much lower HP Merlin which improved performance greatly. They  never came close to the - 51 performance which could out maneuver the Nazi aircraft.  P-40s were very hardy and stayed together under heavy fire. Probably 40s never got the high HP Merlins due to all going to -51s ?

http://www.aviation-history.com/curtiss/p40.html

 

Edit many pilots claimed -40s were able to take more fire than even the P-47s.

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Posted by NorthWest on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:48 PM

What is a P51? Wink Besides an awesome airplane, I think you are thinking of a P42DC or P40DC or even a P32AC-DM. Thanks for finding that, I've heated up the link.

http://www.emdiesels.com/emdweb/products/pdf/2-sidersENG_LTR_proof_rev5RevH.pdf

Anyway, I said a high speed diesel and new coaches because of the unique needs of the Empire Corridor. While the Midwest can get away with bilevel coaches (and that is what they are soliciting bids for), clearances may be a problem in the Northeast. Also, the underground stations must be dealt with by some dual mode operation.  

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:44 PM

For those of us who would not know a F125 from a P51, the link takes you to a nice description of the locomotive.

http://www.emdiesels.com/emdweb/products/pdf/2-sidersENG_LTR_proof_rev5RevH.pdf

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Posted by oltmannd on Friday, July 18, 2014 2:34 PM

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Probably a high speed diesel locomotive, such as the F125, and new coaches.

+1

In fact, the midwest equipment procurement process is already under way.

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Posted by NorthWest on Friday, July 18, 2014 10:44 AM

Probably a high speed diesel locomotive, such as the F125, and new coaches.

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Who will be the successor to the turbo liner?
Posted by zkr123 on Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:06 PM
Since we are increasing speeds along many Midwest corridors and the Empire Corridor, are we going to see a successor to the turboliner?

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