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Neither heat, nor rain, nor snow, nor gloom of night (today's #48)

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Posted by schlimm on Monday, January 6, 2014 6:52 PM

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Posted by ACY Tom on Monday, January 6, 2014 9:27 AM
As Efftenxrfe says, railroaders in the days of yore sure had to put up with a lot of #%&%#& in order to give us those experiences. It can still be rough, and I'm sure it WAS rough for the Lake Shore crews (and passengers); but at least they didn't have to deal with those cumbersome old systems that look so good to us when we view them through the rose-colored glasses of nostalgic memory.
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Posted by efftenxrfe on Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:44 PM

Nostalgia about the sounds, aromas and appearance of steam heated trains, but NO stalgia about shepherding with gentle stroking, tweaking and vituperation of the steam generators, those diabolical collections of pipes, valves, vertically squatting 5-ft diameter tanks enclosed in channel iron boxes glowing orange port holes..... pipe joints dripping, hissing.....motors driving pumps....chattering, rattling

Somebody has fond memories....somebody.....someone....anyone?

Well, How about my second trip as a psgr qualified fireman?

Early frosty morning, that's severe weather in San Jose, commute train; 'bout 3 miles, before Santa Clara, new home of the 49ers who just beat the Packers, the boiler (steam generator) quit and I couldn't find the problem or get it to restart. The commuters including some of his staff and the VP and General Manager of the SP Transportation Company, chilled out in the next 40 miles, commute train stops included, to Rickey's, our slang for the last stop in the City, 3rd and Townsend, SP's SF passenger terminal. Rickey's was a Bar and Grille, leased into the North East corner of the Depot.

My job, my employment, my alternatives, were shot, until Bayshore Shop's said that there was nothing I could have done to restore the steam heat.

Lance Proudfit, SP Coast Div. Road Foreman of Engines. told me, across his desk, that he would be compelled to fire me, were I at fault.

Had I (here comes weird) been at fault, there'd be nothing, he said that, could be done educationally in the future....just fire you!

San Francisco, "sitting on the dock of the Bay," "The morning fog may fill the air,"  "open your Golden Gate."

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Posted by efftenxrfe on Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:25 PM

Nostalgia about the sounds, aromas and appearance of steam heated trains, but NO stalgia about shepherding with gentle stroking, tweaking and vituperation of the steam generators, those diabolical collections of pipes, valves, vertically squatting 5-ft diameter tanks enclosed in channel iron boxes glowing orange port holes..... pipe joints dripping, hissing.....motors driving pumps....chattering, rattling

Somebody has fond memories....somebody.....someone....anyone?

Well, How about my second trip as a psgr qualified fireman?

Early frosty morning, that's severe weather in San Jose, commute train; 'bout 3 miles, before Santa Clara, new home of the 49ers who just beat the Packers, the boiler (steam generator) quit and I couldn't find the problem or get it to restart. The commuters including some of his staff and the VP and General Manager of the SP Transportation Company, chilled out in the next 40 miles, commute train stops included, to Rickey's, our slang for the last stop in the City, 3rd and Townsend, SP's SF passenger terminal. Rickey's was a Bar and Grille, leased into the North East corner of the Depot.

My job, my employment, my alternatives, were shot, until Bayshore Shop's said that there was nothing I could have done to restore the steam heat.

Lance Proudfit, SP Coast Div. Road Foreman of Engines. told me, across his desk, that he would be compelled to fire me, were I at fault.

Had I (here comes weird) been at fault, there'd be nothing, he said that, could be done educationally in the future....just fire you!

San Francisco, "sitting on the dock of the Bay," "The morning fog may fill the air,"  "open your Golden Gate."

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Posted by John WR on Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:01 PM

NPKguy,  

I have some memories of riding the train when nothing else ran.  The train were late but they ran.  And like yours, my memories are good.   Thanks for the ham and eggs story.   Breakfast in the diner is one of my favorite experiences.   

John

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Posted by NKP guy on Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:56 AM

Steam heat in the winter always fascinates me with its wisps of vapor, etc.  I think of Cleveland's streets with the steam pipes buried beneath the surface, and those tell-tale steam plumes rising into the frigid air.  In school, I liked the clanking pipes and sometimes the banging that accompanied the heat coming on in those old buildings of my childhood.

I well recall the sweet smell of a coal-heated small town in the Pennsylvania hills and mountains, long after gas heat took over in Cleveland.  

As for train travel in snowstorms, I have a very happy memory riding The Broadway Limited in the late 1970's one very dark winter night/morning.  As the train sped eastwards at 79 mph I was listening to my portable radio aboard when I heard several times the announcer plead with everyone to stay home, that the roads were, "impassable, treacherous, and ice-covered; many accidents everywhere."  My roomette felt even cozier as I snuggled deeper into my berth.  Then, in the morning, bacon & eggs in the diner (!) as we flashed by all the stopped cars and frustrated motorists. 

Train travel in a snow storm:  Wonderful!    (N.B.  Only if everything is working OK!)

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, January 5, 2014 7:07 AM

Many, many, many such experiences, recounted on this Forum.  One pleasure not mentioned so far is showing up at a business meeting when everyone else there, the local people, expected a cancellaton phone call.   And feeling rested and well-fed at that!

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Posted by ACY Tom on Saturday, January 4, 2014 8:21 PM
I'm still here, Guys. Couldn't get to work because of car trouble. Hope to go out extra with another crew that can get me back home in time to pick up my regular job next time. Not sure that's going to be possible. If I can't, I miss 3 days' work (read: 3 days' PAY). This makes me rather unpopular at the Crew Management Center, which you would call the Crew Callers. But they know this is a very rare occurrence for me. This allows me to address the subject at hand: riding in a sleeper through a snowstorm. The best experiences for the passenger were in the days before Amtrak, when we had the aroma and comfort of steam heat. There was something special about it. Of course, it was probably a royal pain for the guys who had to actually work with those hot, wet, cumbersome steam connections. Those scratchy old wool Pullman blankets were an acquired taste, but I always liked them because they were part of the total experience. They are also the reason a lot of old timers made those beds with kidskin gloves on their hands. Another part of the experience was standing just inside the trailing door on the last car and watching the mixed steam and snow swirling around in the train's wake.
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Posted by efftenxrfe on Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:12 PM

Dakota Fred, excellent, highly evocative prose, maybe poetry--not, but anyone who's 
BTDT.....been there-...,,cherishes the moments and hours, the lullaby of the whistling for the crossings anticipating the dopplered crossing bell's sound, and the rhythemic accompanyment of wheels striking frigid rail joints......clickety,  clac.....wait, uh..., welded rail....

In your Roomette, respite, after having warmly social hours in the Lounge car consuming a brewskie or more "from the land of sky blue waters...comes the beer...."

Waking, lifting the bunk to access the toilet, physically balancing my bodies fluid requirements, diminishing a surplus, discovering the most obvious way, that the cold was enough to freeze the toilet.

Sleeping about a foot above a sloshing container of  restrained, what should have been, effluvient.....

It was, tho, a good trip. The porter said he heard about   "back in.....it was so cold that..."

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Posted by dakotafred on Saturday, January 4, 2014 5:57 PM

northeaster

As she flew through areas where the highways were close by, I was very happy to be aboard and not on those roads! ... There is almost nothing that can compare to the comfort of boarding on a cold winter night, going into the sleeper, getting to bed and being sound asleep before passing the State Fair grounds!

 
Pure poetry! I can see the ice crystals flying past the window and hear the dinging of the crossing bells.
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Posted by northeaster on Saturday, January 4, 2014 2:45 PM
Well said! New Year's Day we left Chicago one hour late because of some frozen toilets and we arrived in Syracuse just a bit over an hour late...much time lost at Buffalo, Rochester stops probably because of the baggage cars at either end and short platforms. The Lake Shore has been greatly improved over the past several years and CSX has greatly improved its tracks. As she flew through areas where the highways were close by, I was very happy to be aboard and not on those roads! Once the bottleneck tracks just west of Albany are cleared up, her on time performance should really improve. There is almost nothing that can compare to the comfort of boarding on a cold winter night, going into the sleeper, getting to bed and being sound asleep before passing the State Fair grounds! All thanks to some very good people working hard out in the cold and dark.
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Posted by Dakguy201 on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:03 AM

I believe I recall that this was the Lake Shore that was more than 4 hours late in departing Chicago.  If so the over the road performance was outstanding given the conditions in the East.

Edited to add:  I was wrong about the eastbound of the 2nd.  That train is now approaching Albany early in the morning of the 4th, running more than 14 hours late.

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Posted by ACY Tom on Friday, January 3, 2014 9:34 PM
NKP and Dakota: Thanks, Guys, but I can't take the credit. I've been on my layover Thursday & Friday & will go south tomorrow with a packed train. I've been running the snow thrower here in Maryland just like the rest of you. My friends on Crew 2 came in from their round-trip run today, exhausted. When I was new to Amtrak in early '87, I was working the diner on the westbound Capitol Ltd. (#29) when we came to a stop due to heavy snow at Brunswick. A maintenance crew was just outside the diner, clearing switches and freezing their backsides off. We made a lot of friends that day when we started handing out cups of coffee through the loading door. Nowadays I'm not sure we'd be allowed to do that. Pity. Tom
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Posted by dakotafred on Friday, January 3, 2014 8:52 PM

Well said, NKP, and recalling for me a couple of trains I rode that soldiered through in the long ago!

It's been often remarked on here that railroads don't have the MW forces that they used to have (too expensive). And that MW is not at Amtrak's command in any case, except on the NE Corridor. So we can't look for the passenger-train heroics of old.

Still, in this case -- well done by Amtrak and CSX! I'm sure the passengers were happy to get home, even late. They could have been sleeping on the floor at some air terminal.  

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Neither heat, nor rain, nor snow, nor gloom of night (today's #48)
Posted by NKP guy on Friday, January 3, 2014 3:21 PM

Today's blizzard-battered Lake Shore Limited into NYP is estimated to arrive some 8 hours late, about 2:30 AM.  Now, while I would dislike arriving at that late and inconvenient hour, at least I would be arriving, and safely at that.  How many flights into LGA, EWR, or JFK were cancelled today?  But The Lake Shore Limited got through!

To me, this is a testimony to all the people who make it possible for The Lake Shore Limited to operate.  I think not only of the Amtrak crews who work long, tiresome, crazy hours, subject to many delays, not of their making.  I think about the car knockers at Albany who perform their dangerous and very physical labors in an outdoor atmosphere that can only be described as arctic; the cold, wet winds of the Hudson Valley are brutal.  Let's not forget the switch tenders today who lifted all that snow off those vital switches, or the signal maintainers who helped keep the trains running safely.  Of course, there are many other such hard-working people in so many other capacities.

If ACY is reading this, thank you for helping to get the trains through in this awful weather and especially  when the planes can't.  

I'm real glad there's an Amtrak on days like this.  And I'm happy, as I bet today's passengers are, that The Lake Shore Limited still has its sleepers and its dining car!

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