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Hiawatha Service to end Food Service

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Posted by schlimm on Monday, June 24, 2013 10:31 AM

from JSOnline, June 24:

"The food and beverage service aboard the Hiawatha run between Milwaukee and Chicago will end on Friday, a state Department of Transportation spokeswoman confirmed Monday.

Spokeswoman Peg Schmitt said both Wisconsin and Illinois had subsidized the food-cart service at a cost estimated to be $233,000 a year. The decision was made to cut the service, she said.

The state budget, now in the hands of Gov. Scott Walker also reduced funding by $1.1 million for the Hiawatha line. State officials had said the state will spend less under a new contract with Amtrak and the reduction will not affect service."

Why that service existed is questionable, but more importantly, why wasn't it contracted out to a low bidder to get the concession at no cost to Amtrak or IL or WI?   Same nonsense as the $15 burger, but at least Amtrak (or IL/WI DOTs)seem to be more conscious of silliness now. 

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Posted by John WR on Monday, June 24, 2013 9:30 AM

I did see it.  From Chicago to Milwaukee takes about 90 minutes.   Exactly why food service is needed on a 90 minute train ride is not at all clear to me.   So I wonder why it is news.  

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Posted by oltmannd on Monday, June 24, 2013 9:17 AM

NorthWest

The way I read the article, it seems that Wisconsin's TOTAL subsidy for the train was $233,000, and this is a way to reduce costs.

For each train, the current subsidy is:

48 round trips a week (7 each day but Sunday with 6) multiplied by 52 weeks in a year is 2496 round trips. $233,000/2496 is about $93 per round trip, or about $46 one way.

(These are very rough numbers, as I am too lazy to do exact calculations, but these are ballpark figuresSmile)

So, if the cart pusher put in three hours per trip, they'd be making $15/hr?  That's not chump change.  Maybe they should be working on straight commission?

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Posted by oltmannd on Monday, June 24, 2013 9:14 AM

Maybe it needed to be a beer and wine cart...Smile

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:50 PM

Just remember the Wi governor is a member of ALEC.  Source PBS

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:28 PM

The way I read the article, it seems that Wisconsin's TOTAL subsidy for the train was $233,000, and this is a way to reduce costs.

For each train, the current subsidy is:

48 round trips a week (7 each day but Sunday with 6) multiplied by 52 weeks in a year is 2496 round trips. $233,000/2496 is about $93 per round trip, or about $46 one way.

(These are very rough numbers, as I am too lazy to do exact calculations, but these are ballpark figuresSmile)

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Hiawatha Service to end Food Service
Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:13 PM

Did anyone else see this?   $233k subsidy for pushing a cart up and down the aisle for only a few trains during M-F service, for less than an hour and a half each way................really?

http://trn.trains.com/en/Railroad%20News/News%20Wire/2013/06/Amtrak%20to%20end%20food%20service%20on%20Hiawatha%20route.aspx

Where is all that money being spent?     When I rode the train it was all packaged snacks loaded with preservatives and none of it was perishable on a short timeline.     Mostly vending machine quality snacks.

Geez, they can't make money with a vending machine car, can't make money pushing a cart.    If I were Wisconsin DOT I would audit this part of their business and find a way to pull this off vs abandoning it.

Geez-O-Pete, $233k a year!!!!!

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