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Amtrak's Shrinking Service

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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:58 PM

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Looks like someone shed his aluminum foil hat and now is trolling as "Railroader and resident Amtrak hater"  

Hardly trolling just pointing out flaws in Amtrak. Enough with the tinfoil hat accusations and back them up with evidence.

When you present links as above and close with a clearly inflammatory signature and then cannot or will not answer some specific points of order from Don Oltmann, the conclusion that you are merely trolling does not mandate a serious response.

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Posted by ontheBNSF on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:23 PM

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#designedtofail

Do you mean that you think Amtrak should be abandoned?  Or do you mean that you thing we should make the investment necessary for high speed passenger rail?

Both. I think we should make major investment into passenger rail and get rid of Amtrak in its current form.

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Posted by John WR on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:10 PM

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#designedtofail

Do you mean that you think Amtrak should be abandoned?  Or do you mean that you thing we should make the investment necessary for high speed passenger rail?

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Posted by ontheBNSF on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:42 PM

schlimm

Looks like someone shed his aluminum foil hat and now is trolling as "Railroader and resident Amtrak hater"  

Hardly trolling just pointing out flaws in Amtrak. Enough with the tinfoil hat accusations and back them up with evidence.

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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 5:02 PM

Looks like someone shed his aluminum foil hat and now is trolling as "Railroader and resident Amtrak hater"  

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 4:22 PM

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Who is this source?  I've never heard of them and there is no information about them.  I would dismiss anything they say out of hand until I know more.

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Posted by oltmannd on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:20 PM

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I bet there are more services today than back then...more people riding, that's for sure.

All you have to do is take a mid-70s TT and compare to now.

Specifically check:

All the California trains.

NY-Albany

NEC south of Phila and north of NY

Harrisburg line

DC to Richmond.

Portland to Seattle.

That's a start.... "Resident Amtrak Hater" what about it?

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:05 PM

Define shrinking service and state one reference date.  Amtrak, in effect, did not shrink the service on its first day but the non participating railroads did.  There have been many additions and subtractions and alterations since that day one.  I bet there are more services today than back then...more people riding, that's for sure.

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Posted by oltmannd on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:55 PM

Crayon lines on a map <> service.

Sure, Amtrak had a nice looking map with some pretty expensive and nearly completely useless once-a-day trains in 1978.

What happened from 1971 to 1978 was that LD routes got added.   What should have happened was that the LD routes should have been pruned some more and corridor services added.

We are living with the legacy of that error even now...

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Amtrak's Shrinking Service
Posted by ontheBNSF on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:24 AM

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