blue streak 1 wrote:I also belly ache about no suburban stops in Atlanta but looking at it from AMTRAK view the train is full from Charlottesvillw to Washington so no additional stops are needed. What is needed is more equipment on that full segment or an additional train that is being talked about.
I agree! Amtrak runs a train just from Indy to Chgo on alternate days when the 3 x weekly Cardinal isn't running.
Couldn't they do that at the other end? Run only C'ville to D.C. on days the Cardinal doesn't? If you don't think there's demand, you haven't ridden The Crescent!
PS: The Crescent stops in Manassas, which is also a stop for Virginia Railway Express. It isn't really Amtrak's job to run commuter, esp. when there's a system in place already. However, VRE makes it less expensive to "step up" to Amtrak by paying a supplement to match the higher fare. This is a boon to pass-riders.
A stop NE of Atlanta would be a good idea, but as the train is basically an overnight Atlanta to D.C., and return (yes I know it goes all the way to N.O.), it would be a convenience, not a commuter conveyance. Amtrak would probably not allow local travel between whatever and Atlanta for reasons of overcrowding.
CSSHEGEWISCH wrote: transitrapid wrote: 1.Pittsburg- Yes only two trains a day at the penn station stop but its there...2.Cleveland-RTA Shaker Rapid Connection up till 12;30 but the late night Amtrak trains dont connect....3.Philidelphia--Needs some work here as the subway does not go inside 30th Street Station4. Detroit---When Amtrak stoped at the renasiance center the people mover stoped at there as well... now neither stop thereSouth Bend?- Not sure on this one for Metra...Metra doesn't go to South Bend, NICTD operates the South Shore Line and it currently terminates at South Bend Regional Airport. The South Shore hasn't operated in downtown South Bend since the 1970's.
transitrapid wrote: 1.Pittsburg- Yes only two trains a day at the penn station stop but its there...2.Cleveland-RTA Shaker Rapid Connection up till 12;30 but the late night Amtrak trains dont connect....3.Philidelphia--Needs some work here as the subway does not go inside 30th Street Station4. Detroit---When Amtrak stoped at the renasiance center the people mover stoped at there as well... now neither stop thereSouth Bend?- Not sure on this one for Metra...
1.Pittsburg- Yes only two trains a day at the penn station stop but its there...
2.Cleveland-RTA Shaker Rapid Connection up till 12;30 but the late night Amtrak trains dont connect....
3.Philidelphia--Needs some work here as the subway does not go inside 30th Street Station
4. Detroit---When Amtrak stoped at the renasiance center the people mover stoped at there as well... now neither stop there
South Bend?- Not sure on this one for Metra...
Metra doesn't go to South Bend, NICTD operates the South Shore Line and it currently terminates at South Bend Regional Airport. The South Shore hasn't operated in downtown South Bend since the 1970's.
They do now!!! somewhere pass gary, In. The line goes from 2 into one then back into 2 main lines
Dakguy201 wrote: Cricketer wrote: Having a way to get from city centre station to generally suburban home without having to drive is going to be key. Cricket is so right. Far too many urban planners fail to recognize that the city itself, despite all of its attractions, is not considered an suitable enviroment by most people with families. They will abandon it as soon as it becomes economically feasible and return only after the nest is empty. Amtrak is not relevant to them unless a means exists to get from the surburb to the central station.
Cricketer wrote: Having a way to get from city centre station to generally suburban home without having to drive is going to be key.
Cricket is so right. Far too many urban planners fail to recognize that the city itself, despite all of its attractions, is not considered an suitable enviroment by most people with families. They will abandon it as soon as it becomes economically feasible and return only after the nest is empty. Amtrak is not relevant to them unless a means exists to get from the surburb to the central station.
...which is why I was bellyaching a while back about the Crescent not having any stops in suburban Atlanta.
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Trenton NJ (South Jersey Light Rail)
Lindenwold NJ (sort of) NJT AC trains and PATCO (can thru ticket from Amtrak)
Newark NJ (PATH) (or did someone get this one already....?)
Texas Eagle passengers can make an across the platform transfer at Dallas Union Station to Dallas Area Rapid Transit's (DART) red or blue light rail lines and vice versa. They can also transfer from or to the Trinity Railway Express (TRE), which is a commuter rail link. It is, however, heavy rail.
Passengers to or from the Texas Eagle, as well as the Heartland Flyer, can make an across the platform transfer at Fort Worth Intermodal Transit Center (ITC) to or from the TRE. They can also jump on a city bus or catch a Greyhound to locations not served by Amtrak.
In New Orleans its like only 300 yards from the St Charles Street Car line to Union Station..
The right of way and some track is there so some work would have to be done to put in the last 1/4 mile.
Years ago the idea of a light-rail "Central Connector" got to the talking and estimated budget phase in Chicago. It would have looped at Union Station and the Ogilvie Center, then gone thru the Loop (business ctr.) and up through Streeterville, the residential section north of the Chicago River and east of Michigan Ave. Some studies had it going as far north as Fullerton Ave. More than once I've heard that that area is the greatest concentration of residents without access to LR or some kind of rapid transit (the Red Line L is quite a piece to the west).
Mayor Daley finally killed it about his third administration IIRC. - a.s.
I agree the connection at Philly's 30th St. Station to the Market Street rapaid transit line and the trolley subway is not the most ideal, but it is there and is used. And there are fine connections to the fairly vast suburban train network including the line to the Philly Airport.
South Bend. The South Shore has a fine connection to the airlines at South Bend airport, but one would do better at Gary if one wanted an Amtrak train, if any Amtrak trains still stop at Gary.
Chicago's conection to the CTA is not much better than Philly's but again it is used, and their are lots of bus lines and commuter rail.
New Haven, Stamford, Poughkeepsie, Croton-Harmon have fine Metro North Amtrak connections, often on the same platform, ditto for New Jersey Transit at Trenton and Newark.
Wilmington for SEPTA! Providence for Boston's "T" commuter trains!
paulsafety wrote: Washington, DC -- Metro in the basement.
DC suburban stations too: Rockville, MD (Capitol Ltd) and Red Line; New Carrollton, MD (NEC) and Orange Line; Alexandria, VA (Florida trains, Cardinal, Crescent) and [I *think*] Yellow/Blue lines
paulsafety wrote: Los Angeles, CA Union Station -- Red Line and Blue Line
Sacramento - Light rail extension recently opened to the Amtrak Station
Denver - Light rail extension to the station
Stretching the definition a little: Mountain View - CalTrain (ex-SP commute) and light rail
Tamien [San Jose] - same as above
San Diego - Trolley connects at Santa Fe station
Oceanside - Amtrak, Coaster, Metrolink and Sprinter all use Oceanside transit center
passengerfan wrote: Toronto Ont. Subway, Commuter Rail, Via Rail, AmtrakMontreal Que. Subway, Commuter Rail, Via Rail, AmtrakVancouver BC Transit, Via Rail Commuter Rail Amtrak
Toronto Ont. Subway, Commuter Rail, Via Rail, Amtrak
Montreal Que. Subway, Commuter Rail, Via Rail, Amtrak
Vancouver BC Transit, Via Rail Commuter Rail Amtrak
"Leave it to the Canadians!" he said admiringly.
Newark, NJ: cross platform from Amtrak to PATH, or go to basement of station to board light rail vehicles.
Washington, DC -- Metro in the basement.
New York Penn Station - Transfer to any number of subway lines (A, C, E, 1, 2, 3, 7)
Baltimore BWI - Amtrak to MTA
Boston Back Bay (orange line to Amtrak)
Boston South Station (Red Line)
Boston North Station (Green/Blue? Line(s))
Los Angeles, CA Union Station -- Red Line and Blue Line
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