Summary of NEC needed capital work

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Summary of NEC needed capital work
Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, May 05, 2017 10:02 PM

Here is the NEC commission capital investment plan. Hours of bedtime reading.  Burried deep are some items that some of our posters wondered.  These are a few items

1.  East river tunnel bores rebuilding and storm doors.  No mention of east river bores 5 & 6.

2.  Six additional RTs  ( round trips ) NYP -WASH

3.  Wilmington shops rebuilding

4.  Wilmington 3rd track and thru train track speed ups.

5.  WASH track 22 platform and connecting track added for thru train tracks to Virginia.   

 

http://www.nec-commission.com/capital-investment-plan/plan/NEC-Capital-Investment-Plan-18-22.pdf

 

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Posted by MidlandMike on Friday, May 05, 2017 10:50 PM

What are "RTs" ?

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, May 05, 2017 11:40 PM

Note : This report is the $38B widely quoted.  But what is not broken out is the amounts needed from all government agencies not jjust Amtrak.  For example the $1.0B+ for the CT Walk bridge work is included.  

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, May 06, 2017 6:37 AM

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What are "RTs" ?

 
Round trips.
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Posted by XOTOWER on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:20 AM

Spend money to rebuild some car shops in Wilmington? What about the 500 year old erector set Delair bridge over the Delaware River. I know its owned by Conrail but somebody is going to get killed on that thing.

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Posted by RME on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:08 AM

With reference to the 160mph upgrades, they mention 10 'crowders' as part of intrusion protection.  The only kind of crowder I know is for rail wheels, to improve the effectiveness of derails; where are the 10 locations and what specific traffic would each prevent from 'intruding'?

Sure would have been nice to have had one working at Gunpow!

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:51 AM

XOTOWER

Spend money to rebuild some car shops in Wilmington? What about the 500 year old erector set Delair bridge over the Delaware River. I know its owned by Conrail but somebody is going to get killed on that thing.

 

500 years old? Was it built by the Mohicans?Smile

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:28 PM

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XOTOWER

Spend money to rebuild some car shops in Wilmington? What about the 500 year old erector set Delair bridge over the Delaware River. I know its owned by Conrail but somebody is going to get killed on that thing.

500 years old? Was it built by the Mohicans?Smile

Must have been the First of the Mohicans, not the Last

         

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:13 PM

Yes, the Last of the Mohicans died during the French and Indian War, according to J. F. Cooper.

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Posted by RME on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:25 PM

[quote user="Deggesty"

XOTOWER

What about the 500 year old erector set Delair bridge over the Delaware River.

500 years old? Was it built by the Mohicans?Smile [/quote]

He thought it was a dog of a bridge, so he quite logically measured in dog years...

It certainly looks 500 years old.

A much more likely bridge for "Mohicans" to build would be the Poughkeepsie Bridge (which is only about 300 years old) -- the Delair Bridge was in Lenapehoking.

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Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:33 PM

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With reference to the 160mph upgrades, they mention 10 'crowders' as part of intrusion protection.  The only kind of crowder I know is for rail wheels, to improve the effectiveness of derails; where are the 10 locations and what specific traffic would each prevent from 'intruding'?

Sure would have been nice to have had one working at Gunpow!

 

Perhaps they referred to the specific after effects from the ingestion of crowder (pea)s!  Stick out tongue

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:52 PM

I thought it might be "crowder" mules--those which, if you annoy them too much and they have the opportunity to do so, will crowd you against a wall and make you extrememly uncomfortable.  If you have read George Agnew Chamberlain's book, Scuddahoo Scuddahay! you will know what a crowder is.

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Posted by RME on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:09 PM

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If you have read George Agnew Chamberlain's book, Scuddahoo Scuddahay! you will know what a crowder is.

The little weasel in the movie version certainly found out (at around 1:28).

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:21 PM

I did not see the movie, but "Stretch" certainly learned not to mess with his step-brother's mules. When he tried to cripple them, he made the mistake of getting between one of them and a wall.

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Posted by RME on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:45 PM

Deggesty
I did not see the movie, but "Stretch" certainly learned not to mess with his step-brother's mules. When he tried to cripple them, he made the mistake of getting between one of them and a wall.

Click the link and you can see the movie. 

Scene sets up around 1:24:40, and Stretch gets his lesson in 'crowdin' starting right about 1:28:00.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:33 PM

As often is the case, much is left out between Stretch's being crowded by the mule and his and his mother's leaving the place left to his step-brother, Snug. 

 

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