News Wire: California commission allocates $50 million for upgrades on Surfliner route

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Monday, March 27, 2017 9:36 AM

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — The California Transportation Commission has earmarked nearly $50 million to the San Diego Association of Governments for a double-track project on the Los Angeles-San Diego-San Luis Obispo rail corridor. The funding will ...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2017/03/27-california-commission-allocates-$50-million-for-upgrades-on-surfliner-route

Brian Schmidt, Assistant Editor Trains magazine

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Posted by mvs on Monday, March 27, 2017 2:35 PM

Where exactly on the Surf Line will this go?

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Posted by MikeF90 on Monday, March 27, 2017 2:44 PM

mvs
Where exactly on the Surf Line will this go?

The California Transportation Commission web site may have more details, but they are totally hidden in agenda minutes. The OCTA maintained LOSSAN web site is similarly packed with project non-detailsBang Head

OTOH the San Diego county (SANDAG) website has been keeping track of their counties projects. Lots of single track and bridges to be upgraded.

In built up areas, $50 million doesn't go very far.  The Rosecrans/Marquardt grade separation in Santa Fe Springs will be over $100M by itself .....

Google Map links ---> Sunset Route overview, SoCal metro, Yuma sub, Gila sub, east of Tucson

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Posted by mvs on Wednesday, March 29, 2017 2:46 PM

MikeF90
The California Transportation Commission web site may have more details, but they are totally hidden in agenda minutes. The OCTA maintained LOSSAN web site is similarly packed with project non-detailsBang Head

OTOH the San Diego county (SANDAG) website has been keeping track of their counties projects. Lots of single track and bridges to be upgraded.

In built up areas, $50 million doesn't go very far.  The Rosecrans/Marquardt grade separation in Santa Fe Springs will be over $100M by itself .....

From a transparency perspective, it's perhaps a bit disappointing?  Oh well.

 

I agree with you on everything else.  SANDAG has an amazing website.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:11 AM

Go figure, I thought the line was double tracked already.

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Posted by MikeF90 on Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:36 PM

CMStPnP
Go figure, I thought the line was double tracked already.

Check out the map of the LOSSAN corridor, southern portion. When Metrolink was formed ~25 years ago they jumped on the single track parts from Fullerton to Laguna Niguel, all is 2MT now. DTLA to Fullerton is 3MT except for a one mile gap to be filled soon.

South of San Juan Capistrano the route runs along the environmentally sensitive and NIMBY intensive coast. The portions next to San Clemente and Torrey Pines likely will never be double tracked.

Same goes for the corridor north of Chatsworth. The best we can hope for is longer sidings and CTC north of Goleta - and bring back the Coast Daylight!

Google Map links ---> Sunset Route overview, SoCal metro, Yuma sub, Gila sub, east of Tucson

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Posted by CMStPnP on Friday, March 31, 2017 7:34 AM

MikeF90
Check out the map of the LOSSAN corridor, southern portion. When Metrolink was formed ~25 years ago they jumped on the single track parts from Fullerton to Laguna Niguel, all is 2MT now. DTLA to Fullerton is 3MT except for a one mile gap to be filled soon.

I've ridden on it a few times, one of my favorite hotels, Hyatt Grand Manchester is in San Diego and I love flying out and staying there for a 4 day weekend every so many years.

Anyways, surprised it is single tracked with all the passenger trains on it.   Not to mention the BNSF Frieght trains which operate at night.

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Posted by ATSFGuy on Thursday, May 04, 2017 3:36 PM

Sometimes in certain areas where double tracking is not possible, a single track mainline may be your only option.

Single track mainlines are cheaper than double track mainlines.

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