Trains.com

Amtrak derails in Michigan

5935 views
6 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    July 2006
  • 9,610 posts
Amtrak derails in Michigan
Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:41 PM

C&NW, CA&E, MILW, CGW and IC fan

  • Member since
    December 2007
  • From: Georgia USA SW of Atlanta
  • 11,919 posts
Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:26 AM

Interesting problem the train ran into a switch aligned into a siding after receiving a clear signal.

http://www.freep.com/article/20121024/NEWS05/310240069/1001/rss01

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: US
  • 2,593 posts
Posted by PNWRMNM on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:17 PM

This incident could be a very big deal in that it is reported to invlove a false clear in the new and very fancy signal system ATK has on this line. Good news is there is no freight railroad to blame for this.

Mac

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: South Dakota
  • 1,592 posts
Posted by Dakguy201 on Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:14 AM

A false clear is about as serious a situation that can exist.   It will be very interesting to see what the NTSB comes up with as the cause of this one. 

  • Member since
    June 2009
  • From: Dallas, TX
  • 6,952 posts
Posted by CMStPnP on Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:14 AM

Amtrak is just a few bad ordered cars away from a serious equipment shortage in the Midwest, IMO.    Each new derailment they have risks their ability to cover existing schedules with proper levels of equipment in back up.

  • Member since
    September 2011
  • 6,449 posts
Posted by MidlandMike on Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:42 PM

The new signal system was to enable 110 mph operation on the line.  Good thing this mishap did not happen at that speed.  PTC might not be ready system-wide by deadline.

  • Member since
    August 2010
  • 95 posts
Posted by Altafest on Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:26 PM

The switch appears to be a hand throw switch from the picture i saw in the Trib. Makes me wonder what that switch was doing open.  And if it was open why didnt the PTC pick it up.  One other thought that came to my mind, switch was thrown and then "jumpered" to show a clear (aka sabatoge?).  But that would take someone that would know what they are doing.   Also thought about a "picked" switch, but i dont think the train would have gone in like it did, usually the equipment goes two directions.

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy