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Canadian light rail and transit
Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 4:19 PM
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Posted by SD70Dude on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 4:49 PM

Edmontonian here.  I wouldn't be so quick to praise our LRT system's construction practices.  The Metro Line (northwest line) 'extension' you speak of consists of a few hundred feet of track and NAIT (Northern Alberta Institute of Technology) finally getting its permanent station, which had been 'planned' ever since this line was first opened in September 2015 (opening day was about a year and a half late). 

You should also read about the years of signalling woes this line had after Edmonton Transit hired Thales to install a moving block system and integrate the new system with the both the old fixed block CTC on the original line and all the crossings on the new line.  It failed miserably and the LRT signals became the laughing stock of the city.  After several attempts to remedy the situation (including a period where the northwest line was operated at restricted speed without any signals) the city finally fired Thales and hired Alstom to install fixed block signals, just like the original line. 

The Metro Line is eventually to be extended across CN's Walker Yard, through northwest Edmonton and out to the neighboring city of St Albert, but this is still stuck in the planning stage (it's been there for at least a decade) and does not have any funding committments yet. 

They are building another mile or so of track north of the new NAIT station and a second 'Blatchford north' station, but this section won't be operated until the area is developed further or the line is extended acoss the CN yard (again, no funding for this yet).  The Blatchford area used to be the Edmonton City Centre Airport, it was closed in 2013 and is supposed to be getting redeveloped into a "sustainable planned community" (whatever that means), but this has stalled and a decade later most of the site still looks like an open airfield.

Meanwhile, the new Valley Line (southeast line) from downtown to the Mill Woods district finally opened this fall after years of its own delays.  An extension to the far west end of the city (via Jasper Place and West Edmonton Mall) is currently under construction.  The Valley Line also became a laughingstock in its own right after bridge pillars on the elevated section developed cracks immediately after being built, and there were multiple crashes with vehicles during the testing period (this is mostly a ground level line that sort of runs in the street, kind of like Houston's Metrorail).

The southeast line was supposed to open in 2020, but revenue service only started in November 2023.  The west half broke ground in 2021 and is supposed to open in 2028.  It will also have an elevated section, hopefully they've managed to rediscover the lost art of how to build sturdy reinforced concrete bridges.....

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Posted by NDG on Friday, January 19, 2024 4:53 AM

 

A Nice Edmonton Story.
 
Decades ago went to Edmonton.
 
A Friend there told me they were building a New Transit System and he had
an old friend for me to see.
 
He Was Right.
 
 
 
First found it here, Sixty Years Ago.
 
 
Much has changed.
 
Thank You! 
 
P. S. In Edmonton the Foamers named it
 

" The 2001 Space Oddity. "

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, January 22, 2024 10:38 PM

The original San Diego "Trolley" line was constructed on time and within budget. A few things helped, the SD&AE track was there (upgrading cost was known), the cars were the same ones being bought by Edmonton (no development costs) and the people organizing had a focus on keeping costs under control. It also helped that there was no federal money involved, so less red tape.

IIRC, Utah has had fairly good record in keeping projects on time and under budget.

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