The ferry was supposed to supliment subway service by having a direct connection from the Bronx to Brooklyn The boat cost 8 million but the company recieved 200 million in subsidies . The ferry gets about 11,000 riders a day. Not sure what the fare is or if all day passes apply here. also dont know how subway riders transfer between the train and the boat.
So you don't know anything of consequence.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
All I know is that I have ridden commuter Ferries in Boston and in Vermont. Water transport is expensive for people. Rochester NY had a fast ferry to Canada that lasted less then a year that the city is still paying off the bonds on and will be paying off for the next 30 years.
anglecockAll I know is that I have ridden commuter Ferries in Boston and in Vermont. Water transport is expensive for people. Rochester NY had a fast ferry to Canada that lasted less then a year that the city is still paying off the bonds on and will be paying off for the next 30 years.
There are myriad ferries that are operating all around the country, and do so profitable with with a politically acceptable level of subsidy. Many of the ferries that were eliminated by highway/bridge construction had the construction cost tens to hundreds of times what it cost to operate the ferry.
BaltACDBaltACD wrote the following post yesterday: So you don't know anything of consequence.
Balt, you are getting snarky today.
Since this is in a Transit blog and about ferries, and since this started with a NYC item, I would like to bring up a ferry operation I have experienced and think highly about. The Vancouver BC SEABUS. It has similarities to a subway car in that it has multiple big doors on its sides and operates between to multiple bus line terminals. They have a new ferry. This is p/o their transit system.
Its operation is similar to the NYC subway's Times Square Shuttle. It loads through four big doors on one. side after discharges through four big doors on the other side. Four diesel motors drive four props (two on each end). Runs through the busy Burrard Inlet.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/burrard-chinook-seabus-first-nations-art-translink
You can find videos on YOUTUBE which I .can not link to on here.
Electroliner 1935 BaltACD BaltACD wrote the following post yesterday: So you don't know anything of consequence. BaltACD BaltACD wrote the following post yesterday: So you don't know anything of consequence. Balt, you are getting snarky today.
BaltACD BaltACD wrote the following post yesterday: So you don't know anything of consequence.
Should I have said anglecock was broken and just blowing air, not letting the trainline build pressure?
The NYC Ferry system is a pet project of the DiBlasio Administration. It is not the Staten Island Ferry! The SI Ferry is run by the NYC Dept. of Transportation; the NYC Ferry is run by an office in the mayor's administration. The fare on the SI Ferry is $0.00 (FREE); the NYC Ferry is $2.75, the same as the Subway.
Last year, a local NYC TV station had a report on the NYC Ferry in which it claimed that the city subsidy was almost $10 per rider. The reporter also showed a video of a boat arriving at Pier 11 (the main terminal) with more crew members than passengers aboard.
The new Adams Administration has promised to do a review of the entire operation of the NYC Ferry. I would not be surprized to see the system closed once the contract with the operator expires. Another idea mentioned on the TV report was to transfer operations to the NYC DoT group that runs the SI Ferry.
sandyhookkenThe NYC Ferry system is a pet project of the DiBlasio Administration. It is not the Staten Island Ferry! The SI Ferry is run by the NYC Dept. of Transportation; the NYC Ferry is run by an office in the mayor's administration. The fare on the SI Ferry is $0.00 (FREE); the NYC Ferry is $2.75, the same as the Subway. Last year, a local NYC TV station had a report on the NYC Ferry in which it claimed that the city subsidy was almost $10 per rider. The reporter also showed a video of a boat arriving at Pier 11 (the main terminal) with more crew members than passengers aboard. The new Adams Administration has promised to do a review of the entire operation of the NYC Ferry. I would not be surprized to see the system closed once the contract with the operator expires. Another idea mentioned on the TV report was to transfer operations to the NYC DoT group that runs the SI Ferry.
What are the terminal points of the NYC Ferry System?
BaltACDWhat are the terminal points of the NYC Ferry System?
https://images.ferry.nyc/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/01210547/Summer-2022-Map.png
It doesn't show the Staten Island Ferry which runs from St George to the south tip of Manhattan Island. There are also NJ-NY ferries:
https://www.nywaterway.com/ferryterminals.aspx
MidlandMike BaltACD What are the terminal points of the NYC Ferry System? https://images.ferry.nyc/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/01210547/Summer-2022-Map.png It doesn't show the Staten Island Ferry which runs from St George to the south tip of Manhattan Island. There are also NJ-NY ferries: https://www.nywaterway.com/ferryterminals.aspx
BaltACD
Amongst all the ferry operators it is a much more extensive system than I could ever conceive of operating in the 21st Century.
I the 50s & 60s when I lived in the NY suburbs I only remember the Staten Island ferries to Manhattan and Brooklyn. I think the Brooklyn ferry went away after the Verrizano Narrows bridge was built. I think the Hudson Tubes replaced any NJ ferries. When I visited in the early 2000s, I took NJT into Hoboken, expecting to take the tube to Manhattan. However, when I saw the ferry, it seemed like a better option on a nice summer day. The new ferries are smaller boats, unlike the big old ferries.
Thanks for the update. Rode the ferry to-and-from Hoboken many times.
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