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Boston PCC's
Posted by NKP guy on Saturday, March 13, 2021 4:35 PM

Are PCC's in service in Boston in 2021?

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, March 15, 2021 6:39 AM

YES!!!!   On the scenic Ashmnt - Mattapan line, reached by the Red Line's Ashmont southern branch.  (The other brasnch goes to Quincy.)

Go to other Boston PCC thread (Classic Trains) and see photos.

The cars are the single-end air-electric, no-standee-window "Wartime Series" that have  been air-cnditioned.  They are painted, now, in the traditinlal Boston Elevated orange, with silver roofs.

This line is isolated from the other light rail lines.

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Posted by NKP guy on Monday, March 15, 2021 8:21 AM

Great news!  Thanks for your help, Dave.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Tuesday, March 16, 2021 10:27 PM

daveklepper
 This line is isolated from the other light rail lines.

Do they truck them to a depot when maintenance is required?

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, March 17, 2021 5:08 AM

Yes.  Mattapan now has a ramp, and so do the shops at Reservoir. and the "T" has a flatbed truck with rails.

Reservoir is at the end of the Beacon Street ("C" Green) line and adjacent to the Reseroir Station of the Riverside Line ("D," ex-B&A/NYCen. Highland Branch) station with track connection, and connected to the Commonwealth Avenue Line ("B") by well-maintained service streetcar tracks on Chestnut Hill Avenue.  Worth a visit.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, March 21, 2021 5:37 AM

Some more Mattapan = Ashmont PCC  photod from Richard Allman.  Definitely not 50 years ago, and thus here and nopt on the Classic Trains Foruym:

MBTA 3262 Ashmont-bound at Capen Street, Milton MA3/14/2009

 Capen Road. Milton MA on 3/13/2009-Ashmont-bound

 

MBTA 3262 Mattapan -bound at Central Avenue, Milton MA 3/14/2009:

 

Grove Street, Dorchester MA approaching Ashmont on unseasonably warm 1/1/2012

 


Mattapan-Bound @ Milton

 

 

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Posted by NKP guy on Sunday, March 21, 2021 4:57 PM

   Thanks for the very colorful & interesting photos of what seems to be a picturesque line.  Orange looks good on these cars.  I'm not sure I've ever seen a standee-window-less PCC before.

   This line is on my to-do list for my next Boston trip, thanks to you, Dave.

   Although I'm a bit early, may I wish you Chag Pesach Sameach. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, March 22, 2021 8:18 AM

For your good wishes.,

Todah, thanks, shukhran.

Look forward to reading your report after your visit.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, March 22, 2021 9:58 AM

The prewar PCC's on Chicago Surface Lines (the Blue Geese) did not have standee windows.  I'm sure that PCC's in other cities also did not have them.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 4:39 PM

You sre correct.  No pre-WWII PCCs had standee windows except Brooklyn's 1000, which was (is at Kingston. NY, needing restoration) aluminum and built by Clark Eq.

Prewar PCCs operated in Brooklyn, Pittsburgh*, Chicago*, Boston*, St. Louis", Baltimore, Cincinnati, Los Angeles*, LA-Pacific Electric, Montreal, Vacouver, Toronto*, Washington*, Philadelphia*, and Dallas.

Starred cities also operated post-WWII PCCs with standee windows.

Cities starred also operated post-WWII PCCs with standee windows.

Illinois Terminal's post-WWII PCCs lacked standeed windows, and so did Kansas City's where prewar and postwar PCCs had the same body desugn.

Johnstown, Birmingham, Detroit, and Shaker Hwights (Clecveland) operated only post-WWII standee-window PCCs.

Brooklyn's year 1936 1000, the first transit vehicle to hace standee windows:

A typical prewar PCC in Baltimore:

 

Chicago post-WWII PCC, 2-man, rear-entrance:

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Posted by 54light15 on Thursday, March 25, 2021 4:14 PM

All of Toronto's non-standee window PCCs were sold to Alexandria in Egypt after they were made redundant by the opening of the Bloor-Danforth subway in 1966. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Friday, March 26, 2021 2:51 AM

Forgat San Diego and El Paso with the pre-WWII cars.  Here added.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, March 30, 2021 2:48 AM

Some captions have been prvided by Richard Allman for his photos and have been edited in to that previous posting.

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