JPS1ridership on the Red Line dropped 3.4 percent.
How much was spent on capacity improvements to parallel highway 75 (Central Expressway) during that same period? Transit ridership does not exist in a world of it's own it is just one mode of a multi-mode transportation system.
I'm OK with the relatively minor decline and look towards the longer trend of urbanization and it's impact on ridership. DART light rail is not yet in final form it is still a system under construction and parts of DART light rail were built a decade or more before their target to save money in financing.
All you need to do is look at the Red Line video I posted in Transit Forum. You can see urbanization has not encroached on much of the Red Line yet.
The comparisons were 2019 2nd quarter vs same quarter in 2018, not against previous quarter this year.
charlie hebdo APTA REPORTS U.S. RAIL RIDERSHIP UP IN SECOND QUARTER COMPARED WITH 2018 PUBLISHED: SEPTEMBER 25, 2019 WASHINGTON, D.C. – Americans took more than 2.5 billion passenger trips on public transportation in the second quarter of 2019, according to the quarterly Transit Ridership Report released by the American Public Transportation Association (APTA), representing 11 million trips more than during the same period last year. These second-quarter results show an increase of nearly 0.5% across all modes compared to the second quarter of 2018, APTAA said in a news release summarizing the report. This includes a rise of 1.44% for heavy rail, 3.54% for commuter rail systems, 0.5% in bus systems in population areas exceeding 2 million people, and 1.51% in systems in communities of less than 100,000 residents, APTA said. Among commuter rail carriers that saw notable increases, the New York MTA’s Long Island Rail Road saw an increase of 10.6%.
APTA REPORTS U.S. RAIL RIDERSHIP UP IN SECOND QUARTER COMPARED WITH 2018
PUBLISHED: SEPTEMBER 25, 2019
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Americans took more than 2.5 billion passenger trips on public transportation in the second quarter of 2019, according to the quarterly Transit Ridership Report released by the American Public Transportation Association (APTA), representing 11 million trips more than during the same period last year.
These second-quarter results show an increase of nearly 0.5% across all modes compared to the second quarter of 2018, APTAA said in a news release summarizing the report. This includes a rise of 1.44% for heavy rail, 3.54% for commuter rail systems, 0.5% in bus systems in population areas exceeding 2 million people, and 1.51% in systems in communities of less than 100,000 residents, APTA said.
Among commuter rail carriers that saw notable increases, the New York MTA’s Long Island Rail Road saw an increase of 10.6%.
Quarter to quarter comparisons are relatively meaningless. It is the long term trends that are important.
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blue streak 1 Flintlock76 I just blundered into this video which might explain why San Diego's transit ridership is going down. Oh for goodness sakes. San Diego transit ridership up 6+%. Where in the world did you get such mis information ? https://www.progressiverailroading.com/passenger_rail/news/San-Diego-MTS-trolley-drives-ridership-spike--59036
Oh for goodness sakes. San Diego transit ridership up 6+%. Where in the world did you get such mis information ?
https://www.progressiverailroading.com/passenger_rail/news/San-Diego-MTS-trolley-drives-ridership-spike--59036
As per Page 121 of the Metropolitan Transit Authority 2018 Comprehensive Annual Report, long term ridership on the bus and trolley systems has been declining over the ten years ended FY18. Whether the FY19 results have made a significant dent in the long-term trend is not known.
I don't have any problem with knowing whom I am addressing. FYI, my students were not captives. Attendance was neither taken nor mandatory. They had freedom to choose.
Style? I couldn't care one jot how you write or dress. And unlike your post to Dave, there was no personal attack, just facts.
charlie hebdo JPS1 charlie hebdo So did you read the detailed information Dave K posted? Metra (Chicago suburban commuter rail) is down also. No. As a rule I don't wade through an article that has been dragged in from another source. If the presenter cannot summarize the data, I am not likely to read it. My memory of the article, which I am not going to quote, is that ridership is down on most if not every transit system. That is what I said in my post, I believe. Saying most if not every transit system gives me some wiggle room to allow for exceptions. Wow, it took about two minutes to cut, paste and reformat the relevant data from Dave's post.
No. As a rule I don't wade through an article that has been dragged in from another source. If the presenter cannot summarize the data, I am not likely to read it.
My memory of the article, which I am not going to quote, is that ridership is down on most if not every transit system. That is what I said in my post, I believe. Saying most if not every transit system gives me some wiggle room to allow for exceptions.
Wow, it took about two minutes to cut, paste and reformat the relevant data from Dave's post.
If and when I feel the need to seek your advice, I'll let you know. Shocking as it may seem, I am not one of your adoring students.
I don't care what you think about my style. I recommend you stick to the subject matter and turn off the stated or implied personal attacks.
JPS1 charlie hebdo So did you read the detailed information Dave K posted? Metra (Chicago suburban commuter rail) is down also. No. As a rule I don't wade through an article that has been dragged in from another source. If the presenter cannot summarize the data, I am not likely to read it. My memory of the article, which I am not going to quote, is that ridership is down on most if not every transit system. That is what I said in my post, I believe. Saying most if not every transit system gives me some wiggle room to allow for exceptions.
charlie hebdo So did you read the detailed information Dave K posted? Metra (Chicago suburban commuter rail) is down also.
Wow, it took about two minutes to cut, paste and reformat the relevant data from Dave's post. Given that NYC is by far the largest transit area, the fact that they had increases is worth investigating.
"Subway average weekday ridership of 5.77 million in September was up 4.5% over the prior year, and local bus ridership of 2.25 million was 1.5% over the previous year.
Long Island Rail Road ridership increased 2.0% in September, boosting year-to-date ridership to 2.4% increase and putting the railroad on pace to set another modern-day record.
Metro-North Railroad’s ridership increased 1.0% in September and has risen 0.6% year-to-date."
Flintlock76 I just blundered into this video which might explain why San Diego's transit ridership is going down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJcT3JbrDRw
I just blundered into this video which might explain why San Diego's transit ridership is going down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJcT3JbrDRw
Flintlock76I just blundered into this video which might explain why San Diego's transit ridership is going down. Before you watch, remember I'm just the messenger. I'm neither for nor against the videographers conclusions. I'm neutral. So don't come after me personally if there's something in there you don't like. I won't respond. The videographer does bring up some things no-one else has mentioned on this thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJcT3JbrDRw
Before you watch, remember I'm just the messenger. I'm neither for nor against the videographers conclusions. I'm neutral. So don't come after me personally if there's something in there you don't like. I won't respond. The videographer does bring up some things no-one else has mentioned on this thread.
All persuasions have axe's to sharpen.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
JPS1 charlie hebdo I think we all can remember that resume pearl. After all, you state that in every third post. Counting does not seem to be your strong suit. If you don't like my posts, don't read them. Save your personnel comments for someone that cares. I don't!
charlie hebdo I think we all can remember that resume pearl. After all, you state that in every third post.
Q.E.D.!!!
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JPST: If you had forwarded the Authority's transmittal, and I felt an executive summary was important for this Forum, I would read what you got from the Authority, and write the summary myself. But you are a professional at that sort of thing, and while I have done some important editing, I have never been asked (until you asked) to write a summary of someone else's presentation. Apparently, you have done so.
Can you do this:
Maybe my contribiution of time to Kalmbach forums are better spent at this sort of thing?
JPS1 daveklepper JPST Sorry if the detailed description of how the New York City rail network increased ridership doesn't interest you. More than a data summary is needed to explain how. I held several senior accounting and audit management positions in a Fortune 200 Corporation. I was required to summarize complex data in a one page memo for executive review. Had I sent the CEO a lengthy article, especially one that was poorly formatted, I would have been shown the door. And it would not have been the one to the executive washroom.
daveklepper JPST Sorry if the detailed description of how the New York City rail network increased ridership doesn't interest you. More than a data summary is needed to explain how.
JPST Sorry if the detailed description of how the New York City rail network increased ridership doesn't interest you. More than a data summary is needed to explain how.
I held several senior accounting and audit management positions in a Fortune 200 Corporation.
I was required to summarize complex data in a one page memo for executive review. Had I sent the CEO a lengthy article, especially one that was poorly formatted, I would have been shown the door. And it would not have been the one to the executive washroom.
I think we all can remember that resume pearl. After all, you state that in every third post.
And you were well paid for your work.
A different standard applies.
And you can always use the URL.
And I did put in the minimum amount of time to have it fit the windows.
In Chicago, uber and lyft maybe be partly responsible for decreased ridership on the CTA.
https://chicago.curbed.com/2019/10/28/20936904/uber-lyft-chicago-congestion-cta-transportation
The "L" Line Sandy repair reconstruction is a terrific exception to the above compleint. It is easy to copy and post and preserves esthetics and reasdibility in the process. Whoever designed it should do all the MTA's Internet publicity.
JPST Sorry if the detailed description of how the New York City rail network increased ridership doesn't interest you. More than a data summary is needed to explain how. But others are interested, and they may be more important and certainly better informed than you.
Having written that, I also have to point out that the New York MTA often does send me messages that cannot be directly transposed to this thread without the right portion off the screen. And we have experienced that. And unless I spend far too much time correcting the mess (like two or three hours), I can only use a method, forwarding and then transposing, that allows the materiali to fit the windows, but is neither esthetically pleasing nor makes for easy reading. So his frustration has some of my understanding
My oh my, aren't we entitled!!!
charlie hebdo No, you didn't even read the opening words. Had you done so, you would see it was a factual article with data on the MTA.
No, you didn't even read the opening words. Had you done so, you would see it was a factual article with data on the MTA.
So did you read the detailed information Dave K posted?
Metra (Chicago suburban commuter rail) is down also.
charlie hebdo Dallas area transit is dwarfed by that in places like NY, Chicago, Philadelphia and Boston.
According to the introductory article, which also ran in the Los Angeles Times, transit ridership has fallen off in most if not every market with the exception of Seattle.
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