I'm just wondering what impact brightline will have on tri rail. They will be competing for some of the same customers. Brightline line has the better route, while tri rail has fore stations.
Might not bode well for tri rail.
I would think that any effect on Tri-Rail would be minimal. Tri-Rail is a suburban operation that extends only to West Palm Beach with lots of close-in stations.
And so is brightline, with its stations located at down town locations rather than further west like tri rails
BrightLine's intent is not to be a commuter carrier, to my knowledge.
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Brightline and Tri-Rail aim to serve two different clientele. That said, the opening of Brightline opens the access of Tri-Rail to downtown Miami. The locals currently lament having to take "three trains" to get to downtown. If anything the work by Brightline should give a boost to Tri-Rail.
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ROBERT WILLISON I'm just wondering what impact brightline will have on tri rail. They will be competing for some of the same customers. Brightline line has the better route, while tri rail has fore stations. Might not bode well for tri rail.
Do you really think their prices are going to be the same? Seriously?
Take a look at the competition between Amtrak and the various suburban operators in the NEC. Basicalliy, they serve different markets.
Commuter trains and trains with a more intercity* focus like Amtrak and Brightline do serve mostly different markets, but there is an overlap. There can also be an assistance to each.
Yes, the prices are different, as are the services, but some people will use either service. In the southern Florida area, Tri-Rail will serve many more locations, giving them some advantage. This could mean that passengers ride Tri-Rail to a station near a Brightline station and then swap trains. I do this now in the New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Miami areas routinely.
I can see Brightline competing with Amtrak on the Miami-Orlando route, and with Tri-Rail south of West Palm Beach. However, with the routes apart from each other, and the focus being different, it will be that 10% overlap that will be interesting to watch.
*And on the issue of Intercity routes, many commuter routes are now of distances that they can probably also be called intercity. Some are as long as 2 hours and cover multiple states. Commuter agencies now routinely have cars with large baggage racks, restrooms, and wifi service. This can create a challenge for Amtrak and other more traditional intercity rail providers.
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bartman-tn Commuter trains and trains with a more intercity* focus like Amtrak and Brightline do serve mostly different markets, but there is an overlap. There can also be an assistance to each. Yes, the prices are different, as are the services, but some people will use either service. In the southern Florida area, Tri-Rail will serve many more locations, giving them some advantage. This could mean that passengers ride Tri-Rail to a station near a Brightline station and then swap trains. I do this now in the New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Miami areas routinely. I can see Brightline competing with Amtrak on the Miami-Orlando route, and with Tri-Rail south of West Palm Beach. However, with the routes apart from each other, and the focus being different, it will be that 10% overlap that will be interesting to watch. *And on the issue of Intercity routes, many commuter routes are now of distances that they can probably also be called intercity. Some are as long as 2 hours and cover multiple states. Commuter agencies now routinely have cars with large baggage racks, restrooms, and wifi service. This can create a challenge for Amtrak and other more traditional intercity rail providers. Bart
We can only speculate what Brightline and Amtrak will accomplish. Only a suspicion if "Sun Rail " can operate out of MCO airport the brightline will probably bring many passenger to Sun rail especially passengers for Kissimmee.
The obvious later departures of Brightline from MIA and earlier arrivals there than Amtrak should attract many cruise passengers from the MIA / FLL / Palm beach area. But those passengers will have a reduced need for rental cars and may use Amtrak more.
The Star Tampa SE Florida coast travel will still be large and may increase for the reasons stated ?
But all this is speculation until the actual service begins and bcome mature.
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It may be with both TriRail and Sunrail connecting service at each end that there could be a bigger demand because of the last mile metric ?
Ya never know, like you said it's all speculation. But I suspect the dynamic will change some.
It appears that TriRail has many management problems The exposure of station problems at the MIA Brightline station's TriRail portion has allowed for many other problems to surface. Now appears that the steps on TriRail cars annot be removed due to ADA. Now almost cerain no service on TriRail in 2022.
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