Concealed Carry on public transit?

[BaltACD]

AMTRAKKER

The fact of the matter, at least in Illinois is you are restricted from carrying anyplace where you might actually be threatened with violence, and be in need of self defense. 

Those of you who believe that concealed carry is a threat to you, each person who attends the training and applies for a concealed carry permit in Illinois does have a criminal background check done by the state police before a permit is issued. 

Training and recertification is required.

Most of the concealed carriers that I know also train on an ongoing basis. 

If you feel safe because you know good guys cant carry on a train, I hope you never meet a bad guy on a train, they don't care about carry restrictions, so they are assured of having their way with you until someone else with a weapon can arrive. 

Good luck!

So your solution is gun fight in car 47 - good luck

[AMTRAKKER]

The fact of the matter, at least in Illinois is you are restricted from carrying anyplace where you might actually be threatened with violence, and be in need of self defense. 

Those of you who believe that concealed carry is a threat to you, each person who attends the training and applies for a concealed carry permit in Illinois does have a criminal background check done by the state police before a permit is issued. 

Training and recertification is required.

Most of the concealed carriers that I know also train on an ongoing basis. 

If you feel safe because you know good guys cant carry on a train, I hope you never meet a bad guy on a train, they don't care about carry restrictions, so they are assured of having their way with you until someone else with a weapon can arrive. 

Good luck!

 

[spsffan]

I'm just like to point out that the thing about real concealed carry is that, since nobody knows you are doing it, as a practical matter, you don't need a permit. If it gets to the point of needing to pull out your gun, the lack of a permit is the least of anyone's worries. As for me, I carry around enough stuff all the time anyway. Plus my eyes aren't good enough anymore to keep the front site, rear site and target in focus at the same time.

[lvt1000]

IT'S A HOBBY not a CON LAW class for amateurs.

[BaltACD]

CandOforprogress2

I advocate CC for public transit in that it in the hands of a well regulated militia (That would be U and me) it served to protect our life and liberty against those that would take it away. In other words I almost never see transit police on our train cars and when there is a issue they stop the train and wait for transit police to show up. In the meantime then what? If you have the proper training and CC classes are given everywhere and the disrupters will think twice about messing with a armed populace.

A militia of 1 is not well regulated, it isn't regulated at all.  I would fear for my life seeing you with open carrry of firearms and would most likely feel that I had to shoot you before you shot me.  Self Defense and all.

With open carrry, nobody can tell the good from the bad.  Count the number of undercover police that get killed in uniformed police involved shootings.  Can't tell the good from the bad.

[CPM500]

CandOforprogress2

I advocate CC for public transit in that it in the hands of a well regulated militia (That would be U and me) it served to protect our life and liberty against those that would take it away. In other words I almost never see transit police on our train cars and when there is a issue they stop the train and wait for transit police to show up. In the meantime then what? If you have the proper training and CC classes are given everywhere and the disrupters will think twice about messing with a armed populace.

 

 

Stick to trains, bro-You FAIL as a constitutional scholar. The concepts of a 'well regulated militia' and local police do not intersect.

CPM500

 

[CandOforprogress2]

I advocate CC for public transit in that it in the hands of a well regulated militia (That would be U and me) it served to protect our life and liberty against those that would take it away. In other words I almost never see transit police on our train cars and when there is a issue they stop the train and wait for transit police to show up. In the meantime then what? If you have the proper training and CC classes are given everywhere and the disrupters will think twice about messing with a armed populace.

[Firelock76]

Considering the prices of quality firearms nowadays I'm amazed anyone can afford 'em, much less carry 'em.

I still go to gun shows every once in a while and I don't know why, all I get are heart attacks.

[CJtrainguy]

Really, really don't need John Q Citizen to be concealed or open carrying on any train, plane, bus or boat. Or pretty much anywhere in public for that matter.

[54light15]

I remember when open carry meant liquor, not guns.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

Because of the possible threat to the rest of us, I'm quite pleased that Amtrak and the airllines do not allow concealed carry.

[CandOforprogress2]

No defintive laws on this that I can find.Amtrak is a big no-no. But commuter and light rail is a grey area So even with a permit Buffalo Metro Rail and Cleveland OH have no info on this. Here for starters is a breakdown by state on CC. Ohio has open carry BTW.

Status of concealed carry, by jurisdiction

Jurisdiction[17]	Shall-issue	May-issue	Unrestricted	No-issue	Non-Resident Permits Available	Recognition of out-of-state permits	Disputed
Alabama	[18]					Yes
Alaska	For reciprocity purposes					Yes
American Samoa						No
Arizona	For reciprocity purposes					Yes
Arkansas			Disputed[19]			Yes
California						No
Colorado						Resident permits
Connecticut	In practice[citation needed]					No
Delaware	In practice[citation needed]				Rarely issued	Partial
District of Columbia	From May 17, 2016[20] - May 27, 2016.[21]	[21][22]	Briefly from July 27, 2015 - July 29, 2015. See below for details.	In practice[citation needed]	Rarely issued[citation needed]	No
Florida						Yes
Georgia						Partial
Guam	[23]					No
Hawaii				In practice[citation needed]		No
Idaho	For reciprocity purposes		Idaho residents 21 years or older only.[24]			Yes
Illinois	[25][26][27][28]				Only for residents of Hawaii, New Mexico, South Carolina and Virginia.[29]	Vehicle carry only
Indiana						Yes
Iowa						Yes
Kansas	For reciprocity purposes					Yes
Kentucky						Yes
Louisiana						Partial
Maine	For reciprocity purposes		Duty to inform if concealed carrying without permit.			Partial
Maryland				In practice[citation needed]	Rarely issued[citation needed]	No
Massachusetts					Rarely issued	No
Michigan						Partial
Minnesota						Partial
Mississippi	For reciprocity purposes, or if you wish to Mexican carry, carry concealed in an ankle holster or any other method not covered by the law's exception.		Only if carried in a belt/shoulder holster, sheath,[30] purse, handbag, satchel, other similar bag or briefcase or fully enclosed case.[31]			Yes
Missouri	For reciprocity purposes.		Takes effect January 1, 2017.			Yes
Montana			Outside of city limits.			Yes
Nebraska						Partial
Nevada						Partial
New Hampshire			Unloaded.[32]			Partial
New Jersey				In practice[citation needed]	Rarely issued[citation needed]	No
New Mexico			Unloaded.			Partial
New York						No	[33][34]
North Carolina	[35]					Yes
North Dakota						Partial
Northern Mariana Islands						No
Ohio						Yes
Oklahoma			Residents of permitless carry states with valid ID.			Yes
Oregon	[36]					Partial
Pennsylvania						Partial
Puerto Rico			As of June 20, 2015. Under appeal.			No
Rhode Island	Local permits	Attorney General issued permits		In practice for permits issued by the Attorney General's office	Rarely issued[citation needed]	Vehicle carry only
South Carolina						Partial
South Dakota						Yes
Tennessee	[37]					Partial
Texas	[38][39]					Yes
United States Virgin Islands				In practice[citation needed]		No
Utah	[40]					Yes
Vermont						Yes
Virginia	[41]					Yes[42]
Washington						Partial
West Virginia			[43][44][45][46]			Partial
Wisconsin						Partial
Wyoming[17]			Wyoming residents only.			Yes
US Military installations				Most, in practice		No
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