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History Underfoot and Nachod Signals Overhead.

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NDG
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Posted by NDG on Friday, September 2, 2016 9:55 PM

Yes... So much so long ago.

"No job is so important and no service is so urgent......'

Odd PIC, Pressurized cable from the Exchange w flow meters similar to gas meters under the Frame.

Bl/OR/GN/BN/SL  WH/RD/BK/YL/VI  Ring Tip Sleeve 48 V.

Open Wire Talking in the Wind.

Coin Collectors, Ding-Ding a 10 Cent Call. 233HS.

Ten Button subscriber's sets for Touch Tone just coming in on Cross Bar, HUnter 2.

The neet rolling ladders on ceiling track. Huge Wet Battery room in basement. Revolving mercury-filled discs for Dial Tone, Busy, Ring etc.

Cool Green LIU trucks to drive around in, 3 on the tree. ( Whats a CLUTCH, they ask, today. Better Google it on your device, Dude! )

Canadian Installer's trucks were  a different Green w/Red Wheels. Similar truck for Cable Work in Lead.

http://www.securnshield.ca/telephone/1957BellTelephoneTruck_files/telephone-truck-22.jpg

In later years the ladders ( wood ) were left natural varnished to expose faults.

Last man hole covers before the 'Bell' went from Bell.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7252/7479776600_1535685012_b.jpg

Loved the old 'Selectors' on the DS phone, a Scissors model w/Pedal. Magneto phones on the Track Circuit. Wire diagrams in the ETTs where Trains could hang up phones from Caboose.

More to a Man's life than Whytes Wheel Arrangements, S/Gs and DSG.

Communication, and, Transportation.

Spans the World, as they said.

I still look for lead-sheathed cable and lead binding-post terminals.

A life time ago.

Thank You.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Friday, September 2, 2016 5:47 PM

Just remember, "It's UP and OVER, not OVER and UP"

Old telephone switchmen will understand.

NDG
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Posted by NDG on Friday, September 2, 2016 4:40 AM

 

Thank You for answering! Sir.

Much of the Tramways' power was generated by steam, as they 'electrified' around the time Hydro Power was still being developed on a large scale and were still perfecting Alternating Current technology to permit  the efficient transmission of higher and higher voltages long distances.

In the City, DC Traction Voltage was transmitted by Thick cables covered in a weave of some sorts coated w/Tar?, the latter dripping like rain if a 'Short' developed, as when a crane or truck caught the wires and brought everything down.

Later. Rotary Converters were installed in various Substations dotting the landscape.

As in this photo, there were often many feeders adjacent to streetcar routes as seen above the car.

http://thumbs1.picclick.com/d/l400/pict/201635322488_/Montreal-Tramways-Electric-Streetcar-1856-Orig-Negative-MTC.jpg

Last substation built c. 1949.

http://thumbs2.picclick.com/d/l400/pict/222203851269_/Montreal-Tramways-Electric-Sightseeing-Streetcar-1-Original-Negative.jpg


Extant Substation. Company Crest above door

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4420622,-73.6475901,3a,90y,137.66h,82.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQtx7n9zrG85dB5EMSLuN9A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

FWIW the swing bridge w/ the D&H PA is to the right about 1/4 mile upstream.

We used to come here as kids and watch trains w/steam, as old CNR once right behind camera. Canallers pass up and down thru Bascule Bridge to left, and watch streetcars.

Simpler times.


Another Substation.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.634215,-73.4932087,3a,59.8y,152.51h,93.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spDhqz8r0rExTqez-gVl7_A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I understand streetcars LAST ran here c. 1936, and buses put on.


Old and New. Lived a block away in the Forties after the War.

http://w5.montreal.com/mtlweblog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/sno22.jpg

( In another dimension I worked for The Bell as a CO Man routining Line Finders, Selectors and Connectors on the WAlnut Exchange as on cab door of Dodge truck.  Step by Step dialing now a memory, also.)

I tell some folks I have a 1200 in the basement w a wide screen and every App known to man, and go down there and sit in the Motorman's seat, ring the bell, silenced w/ cotton batting, as neighbours call the police, and get drunk.

The compressor runs up the power bills, tho.'

The neighbours are LUCKY this class came without air whistle.

ALL a crock!

Route 11 is nice, w/the tunnel.

These special cars were fitted with regenerative braking and resistors and other features as on 8%.

http://www.taylornoakes.com/wp-content/galleries/2011/07/4458860300_29fa8309a7_b.jpg

A late 1200.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/91/9f/0f/919f0f9cd312072a03713dd32eeecb54.jpg

You can blame everything on 'Getting Old' or 'The Meds.'  Love IT!

'Nother funeral on the 7th. he younger than I.

Thank You.

 

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Posted by erikem on Thursday, September 1, 2016 11:38 PM

NDG

The one shown on lawn on Google was on a street which never had streetcar tracks, nor wire.

Maybe running power feeders underground via short cut to save on the copper bill, rather than follow the track??

You may be right. Shortening the feeders would also reduce the voltage drop.

FWIW, the Milwaukee Roads line between St Paul pass (MT ID border) and Avery Idaho formed a several mile long horseshoe curve. There were a couple of points where the feeders connected across the two sides of the horseshoe to make better use of the feeders.

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Posted by NDG on Thursday, September 1, 2016 12:22 AM

FWIW.

Received a Wire from Montreal today stating that the local Rwy Museum had taken delivery of One 1 Montreal Tramways Manhole cover and it's seat for their collection from City street.

It can be seen before it's removal to right of spruce tree, here.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4885631,-73.5891206,3a,75y,200.81h,85.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLhxhVLreBzlFh5UBUc41QA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


Apparently there were Four in all, still scattered around, after Sixty 60 Years.

Example.

https://michaelld2003.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/052.jpg

The one shown on lawn on Google was on a street which never had streetcar tracks, nor wire.

Maybe running power feeders underground via short cut to save on the copper bill, rather than follow the track??

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Posted by NDG on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:40 PM
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Posted by bedell on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 3:46 PM

Thanks for sharing your photos.  Interesting to find these remnants from the past.  Makes one wonder if there rails under the pavement.

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History Underfoot and Nachod Signals Overhead.
Posted by NDG on Monday, April 4, 2016 12:25 AM

History Underfoot and Nachod Signals Overhead.

Streetcars have been gone for Sixty years at these locations, but, see what still exists!

Power Feeder Cable Vault Covers.

https://michaelld2003.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/052.jpg

http://www.westmountmag.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/p_tramways_manhole.jpg


Off Topic.

These Nachod signals were not far from where we lived, and I used to watch them when still in use as streetcars passed by many years ago.  Then the Autobuses came, just like the Diesels.

Streetcars came off here in 1953.

Two Nachod Signals protecting a section of Single track w/ 90 degree curve.

Photo 1938. This signal remained in place until c. 1958. Note horse.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e7vO3l26Tsc/UIU_yv7ItxI/AAAAAAAAPBU/-YXeZBBGBb4/s1600/picture.jpg


Photo 1953. Signal to left of locomotive. Signal remained in place until c.1963.

Photo covering test trip of locomotive w/two headlights.

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cpr_steam/2527_headlight.jpg

 

A few blocks away sweeping West in 1938.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ppLScXLX8Fg/UOmpGXU9MoI/AAAAAAAAWTI/zCBVmKxx8YE/s1600/oldpic%23144-02.jpg

 

Data Nachod Signals.

http://www.btm.org.au/forest_city/btm_collection_record_4794.html

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5591/14575248207_729d6c17ac_b.jpg

http://tdu.to/a43997/NACHOD_272_Engineers_and_engineering_p265-2.gif

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