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Uber Ride? Seems to be a mod tech version of the Jitney

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Posted by trackrat888 on Friday, January 9, 2015 2:38 PM

How does Uber ride make there money? having never used it and the website does not give much details

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Posted by awalker1829 on Friday, January 9, 2015 12:53 PM

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The insurance issue has barely been raised in regard to those who drive for Uber.  Since it appears that most Uber drivers are doing it as a side job with their personal vehicles, they don't bother with upgrading their insurance coverage for a commercial activity.  It will be interesting to see what happens when an Uber driver is involved in a traffic accident with sizable damage and injuries.

 

 

The insurer will either cover the damages and sue the insured for costs or deny claims. Either way, the insured party will lose their coverage.

 

Also, there are some changes coming down the road for commercial motor coach insurance-specifically changes to the minimum insurance coverage requirement. Those of us who operate vintage coaches strictly for parade or display have a devil of a time getting insurance without paying an arm and a leg.

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Posted by gardendance on Friday, January 9, 2015 8:34 AM

I've often wondered why we want to treat insurance for your private vehicle differently than insurance for vehicles intended to carry paying passengers. If I carpool with 3 strangers why should I be happy that they have less insurance than a regular taxi? Especially since, despite stereotypes and anecdotes, someone who drives to make money might have more driving experience than the average driver.

And now for what I hope is a good anecdote. My father was a taxi driver. He had what I believe was an incredibly annoying and dangerous habit, he would write on his clipboard while driving. One time I was riding with him, I asked him to let me write for him, he replied that he was so experienced that he could, and had for years, do it himself.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, January 9, 2015 7:08 AM

The insurance issue has barely been raised in regard to those who drive for Uber.  Since it appears that most Uber drivers are doing it as a side job with their personal vehicles, they don't bother with upgrading their insurance coverage for a commercial activity.  It will be interesting to see what happens when an Uber driver is involved in a traffic accident with sizable damage and injuries.

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Posted by trackrat888 on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:43 PM

Public Carpooling has been around since the late 1970s and Dagwood aka Blondie has been carpooling for the last 70 years in that comic strip. The Planning Authrity or the transit agency or the state DOT play matchmaker after registering and screening u. Uber does not seem to do this or cover ur behind if U are in a wreck. TAXI companies pay big bucks for insurance and so does your local bus company

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Posted by awalker1829 on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:20 PM

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trackrat888

In DC on the HOV lanes at the Park & Rides there was/is a practice called slugging picking up random people at bus stops and taking them on the HOV lane to meet the 2 person requirment.  In the inner city cars would do the same thing and drive bus routes and "steal" passengers from bus stops for a couple extra bucks for beer and cigs. Thats why it was made illegal.

 

 

 

 

In Northern California something like that is a regular, accepted occurrence called "casual carpools".  There are even officially-designated pick-up and drop-off points (though it can happen elsewhere).  The local transit companies have gotten over it.

 

 

The key issue is whether the transportation is "for compensation". An office or company can do whatever it wants, as long as the passengers do not provide monetary compensation for the driver. Once they provide monetary compensation, then the transportation is essentially "for hire".

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Posted by awalker1829 on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:18 PM

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Park and Ride lots are common. I think the thing is about charging people to ride by stealing passengers from taxi companies and transit systems. Gypsy cabs and that sort of thing.

 

 

It's that and there is no proof that the people operating for Uber are properly licensed and insured. Unfair competition and public safety are the issues.

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Posted by awalker1829 on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:09 PM

Similarly, some passenger transit agencies are having issues with student housing providers operating buses to transport students to and from campus. We have those here in Tucson, Arizona and I what arrangement the operators are running them (full sized buses) under.

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Posted by 54light15 on Monday, January 5, 2015 10:01 AM

Park and Ride lots are common. I think the thing is about charging people to ride by stealing passengers from taxi companies and transit systems. Gypsy cabs and that sort of thing.

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Posted by erikem on Sunday, January 4, 2015 10:08 PM

In southern California, CalTrans has set up several parking lots called Park and Ride for people to meet up and carpool.

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Posted by Dragoman on Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:34 PM

trackrat888

In DC on the HOV lanes at the Park & Rides there was/is a practice called slugging picking up random people at bus stops and taking them on the HOV lane to meet the 2 person requirment.  In the inner city cars would do the same thing and drive bus routes and "steal" passengers from bus stops for a couple extra bucks for beer and cigs. Thats why it was made illegal.

 

 

In Northern California something like that is a regular, accepted occurrence called "casual carpools".  There are even officially-designated pick-up and drop-off points (though it can happen elsewhere).  The local transit companies have gotten over it.

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Posted by 54light15 on Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:07 PM

Trackrat, isn't that what jitneys did years ago? Steal paying customers from transit lines? Wasn't jitney slang for a nickle which was the fare?

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Posted by trackrat888 on Friday, January 2, 2015 1:24 PM

In DC on the HOV lanes at the Park & Rides there was/is a practice called slugging picking up random people at bus stops and taking them on the HOV lane to meet the 2 person requirment.  In the inner city cars would do the same thing and drive bus routes and "steal" passengers from bus stops for a couple extra bucks for beer and cigs. Thats why it was made illegal.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:14 AM

CANNOT WE DISCUSS THE COMPETITION WITHOUT RECEIVING COMPLAINTS?

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Wednesday, December 31, 2014 5:00 AM

When did this become a taxi forum?

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Posted by Buslist on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 9:52 PM

There is an Uber driver accused of rape in Chicago as well.

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Posted by trackrat888 on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 6:08 PM

Uber could be a help if they worked with Transit agencies. At night either mass transit does not exist where I am working or its a 2 mile walk. Having better screening would help for Uber. I am tired of being raked over the coals for a 3 mile taxi ride. For Commuter rail it would help as the stations are out of the way or I am too over the blood limit to drive home. The State Troopers wait outside the commuter rail station in the Evening.

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Posted by 54light15 on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 9:18 AM

Uber seems to be an arrogant outfit. They supposedly make threats to anyone that is investigating them. They really don't screen the drivers because they "are in the tech business" A woman was raped by an Uber driver in India, and Uber doesn't know anything about it. Uber jacked up the rates in Sydney after that hostage situation when people wanted to get out of the area. I'm not a friend of taxi companies but Uber seems to be out of control. I guess that's natural when you're raking in bilions of dollars.

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Posted by erikem on Monday, December 29, 2014 9:57 PM

Pretty much the same way that Amazon is a web based version of the Sears mail order catalog.

The electric railways were first making their moves against the jitney's amost 100 years ago.

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Uber Ride? Seems to be a mod tech version of the Jitney
Posted by trackrat888 on Monday, December 29, 2014 8:45 PM

  https://www.uber.com/  And the Jitney was made illigal at the bequest of streetcar companies in the 1940s and heavy regulation of taxicabs due to Public saftey. Having drove a cab we has to do background checks and pay $$$ for a licence.

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