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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, August 17, 2014 9:23 AM

Regarding PCC cars, no material whatsoever came from anyplace but the USA and Canada.  Also, remember, that both for Canada and the USA, in total more than 500 PCC cars were constructed during WWII!   Because all transit systems were hard-pressed, with old cars requiring intensive maintenance to keep running taken off the scrap line and put back into service.  Boston got about 300 wartime cars.  All of Montral's PCC's and Vancouver's were war-time cars.   I don't know the quantities elsewhere, but I think Cleveland and Cincinnati and St. Louis also got cars during the war.  LaGuardia would not allow the New York system to buy streetcars during WWII, and lots of old deck-roof wood 2500-series cars from about 1902 were put back into service.   The War Production Boards of both Canada and the USA collaborated on the distribution of cars to were they were needed the most.  Toronto, for example, placed an order of 175, but was allocated only 100.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:16 PM

That thing's weird looking, to say the least.  But that's the Russian philosophy I suppose, it doesn't have to look good, it just has to WORK.

Look at the AK-47 and the T-34 tank, the Moisin-Nagant rifle and the Tupolev "Bear" bomber for examples.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, August 15, 2014 7:35 PM

Rather unusual front-end configuration for a tram - but it does bear a remarkable resemblance to the bow of a Wind-class icebreaker.

The Russians have worked armorglass to a fine science, as in, capable of deflecting bullets.  I don't think the driver is in much danger.

I love the patting-self-on-back, "We built it all ourselves!"  And then he had to spoil it by admitting that some parts and assemblies came from, "Outside."  What percentage of Chinese tram car parts come from, "Outside?"  For that matter, what percentage of the parts of PCC cars and their predecessors were imported to the U.S. three quarters of a century and more ago?

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Posted by gardendance on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:46 PM

And may we add Asian Russia, Yekaterinburg is not far from Europe, but everything I've heard about it says it's in Asia.

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Posted by NorthWest on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:25 AM

Yes! I wonder why, if they are trying to crack into an English speaking market (most likely the UK, Ireland or Australia) or are using it as a semi-universal language? This trade fair is actually in central Russia. 

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 8:25 AM

Has anyone else found it interesting that, in a Russian-language article, about a prototype shown at a European trade fair, so many of the controls are shown as lettered in correct, idiomatic English?

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Posted by narig01 on Monday, July 14, 2014 10:59 PM
Did some looking and found this on the R1

http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/single-view/view/russia-one-tram-prototype-revealed.html


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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 11:51 PM

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Will it stand up to service in harsh winters ?

 

Tomorrow Yekaterinburg UralVagonZavod unveil its new tram RUSSIA ONE

 

Is the manufacturer in Yekaterinburg, or is that where they expect to operate it? Sep 1 2004 a friend in Yekaterinburg emailed me that the high temperature was 32 fahrenheit, 0 celsius. Who cares about winter, will it stand up to harsh summers?

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Posted by CMStPnP on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:11 PM

I would wait until you see it in production.   The Russians are in over promise mode.    Very little of what they promise makes it to delivery.

1.  Concept Car they were supposed to produce that superceeded the Lada.

2. Two sided iPhone they were supposed to produce that would give Apple a run for the money.

3. Of course there is the reversal on opposition to fracing after their massive media campaign in the United States failed to produce results in the political sphere (of course their interest in keeping oil prices high has nothing to do with their safety concerns with fracing.......also has nothing to do with encouraging instability in the Middle East......it's all just coincidence).

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 8:53 PM

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Will it stand up to service in harsh winters ?

They specifically note the use of regenerative braking to heat the aluminum sills at the doors to preclude icing...

Plenty of things in the design actually make sense, although the Google translation often does not...

"Cities that stupidity by their mayors have time to destroy the tram system will now bite your elbows."

Indeed!

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Posted by NorthWest on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 1:24 PM

Um...let's hope that new tram body style is sort of like a concept car, (with emphasis on style over practicality) and doesn't see regular production! I'm a little worried about how it would fare in a collision, as it projects the driver above a space, and puts him behind a lot of glass. I also question the single doors in the front. (Edited for clarity, with thoughts added.) 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:58 PM

Check out the interior and exterior of this new tram.  Will it stand up to service in harsh winters ?

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fvarlamov.me%2Fru%2Fnovyy-russkiy-tramvay&edit-text=

 

 

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