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Commuter And Subway Train Couplers

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Commuter And Subway Train Couplers
Posted by alloboard on Friday, October 28, 2011 9:25 PM

     Do rapid transit and commuter train have the same couplers? Are all US Commuter and raipd transit rail cars MU couplers the same?

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Posted by henry6 on Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:07 AM

1) NO.  2) NO.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Saturday, October 29, 2011 11:57 AM

     I kinda remember seeing somewhere that some couplers used in transit have automatic connections for air and electrical circuits incorporated in them.    Is this true?

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Saturday, October 29, 2011 1:30 PM

Paul of Covington

     I kinda remember seeing somewhere that some couplers used in transit have automatic connections for air and electrical circuits incorporated in them.    Is this true?

You mean like this?

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Saturday, October 29, 2011 4:19 PM

   Wow!   Looks pretty elaborate.     Who is that?

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:14 PM

It is a Siemens S-70.  Charlotte Area Transit System (CATS) Lynx light rail.

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Posted by Phoebe Vet on Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:54 PM

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, October 31, 2011 10:06 AM

Starting with the 5000's of 1947 and the 6000 series, CTA has used Ohio Brass Type 5 couplers with the electrical connections underneath the coupler, no air line is involved.  I believe that the IC Electric uses Tomlinson couplers.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, October 31, 2011 3:38 PM

New York City Transit Authoritiy uses Westubghouse couplers, or at least designed by them if not still manufactured by them.   Integral electric and air connections.

Metro North and LIRR use Sharfenburg (spelling?) imported couplers or made in USA under liscence.   I forgot what NJT and PATH use, please remind me.

 

NUCTA, LIRR, and MN all have adapter couplers ready when needed.

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, October 31, 2011 4:11 PM

My initial answer was a curt "no" and "no".  This topic and question is raised quite often and has been answered.  Each agency and each manufacturer and each order is different.  Sometimes an agency will order that all new trainsets have to be compatable with existing trainsets, most of the time not.  Sometimes there are semi-permanently couple pairs or sets of motors and trailers, too.  This is true of subway and light rail in general...I am not sure if there ever were such equipment to use standard knuckles as they would seem to be too heavy to begin with.  However, commuter rail, which adheres to standard heavy rail specifications is more likely to have standard knuckles along with air brakes, hoses and appliances, at least historically.  This is not to say that there weren't...aren't....semi perminent couplings and trainsets.  But in heavy rail the MU cables would have to be either standardized or adaptive depending on the situation.

Again I emphasize there are no absolutes, no standards, in railroading so there can be anywhere from one to a million variations, to every piece of equipment and appliances.

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