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New York City Tunnels
Posted by BNSFwatcher on Friday, March 26, 2010 4:42 PM

Does anyone know, or have access/references to info, about the current N Y City tunneling projects, i. e. the LIRR connection to GCT; the Second Avenue subway; and the new PATH tubes?  I haven't heard anything about their progress in quite a while.  All I hear from MTA is about service cutbacks and raising rates.  Tnx.

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Posted by henry6 on Friday, March 26, 2010 6:22 PM

Check the MTA/MNRR/LIRR web pages (WWW.MTA.COM); NJT web pages; and archives of any NYC area newspaper: Daily News, Post, New York TImes, Wall St. Journal, Newsday, Star Ledger for starters. (NJT and Star Ledger via WWW.NJ.COM).

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Posted by aegrotatio on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:47 AM

 They've changed the name of the THE or ARC tunnel to a new name: "Mass Transit Tunnel."

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Posted by BNSFwatcher on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:37 PM

You've lost me.  What did the "THE" and/or "ARC" tunnels stand for, acronym-/abbreviation-wise?  "MTT"?  Is that like "Empty"?  We don't get very much NYC transit news, here in Montana!

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Posted by wanswheel on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:58 PM

ARC is for Access to the Region's Core.

http://www.arctunnel.com/gallery/

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Posted by BellmoreBob on Monday, April 5, 2010 8:06 PM

Allow me to take a different approach to your questions: the possible nearness-to-completion of each job:

1) Of the projects you named, the LIRR connection to Grand Central is most underway.  The tube under the East River was built (sunk) decades ago.  As one rides the LIRR thru Sunnyside, one can see the signs of active construction from the present line to the 63rd St. tunnel.  The biggest job ahead seems to be creating the cavern deep under the present two levels at GCT and constructing the means of getting people in and out of this deep station.  Oh, and some crossovers are already in place east of Woodside for whenever they will need them, during construction or later.

2) I put the 2nd Avenue subway section as next to completion, but it is wrong to call it "completion."  The first section will allow trains to bend north under 2nd Avenue after stopping at 63rd and Lex.  Are they going only to 96th Street at this stage?

3) The new two-track tunnel under the Hudson is a long-time project.  A little digging has been done.  There is much criticism over the plan to keep these two new tracks separate from Penn Station, in effect creating under 34th Street a stub-end station without adding flexibility.

4) The project of lengthening the Flushing train route to the Javits Center may be well finished earlier than the other projects, because there is less to be done.  It is a two-track line with a curve south and only one station.

All the above is subject to dispute and correction.

 

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, April 5, 2010 8:38 PM

The ARC tunnel is a NJT project.  The LIRR to GCT is an MTA LIRR project. The Second Ave Subway is an MTA subway project.  And the Flushing train...the 7 Train...is an MTA subway project.  Thus the LIRR and the NJT projects are rail and the MTA Subway projects are rapid transit.  It gets confusing with all the different entities and services doing thier thing sometimes even looking like they are cooperative and complimenting services and other times like they are working at cross purposes!  It will be fun to see how things shovel out!

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Posted by BNSFwatcher on Thursday, April 8, 2010 2:03 PM

B'Bob -- Thanks.  That's the info I was looking for.  "Too many cooks", methinks.

Hays

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