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BNSF 616
Posted by D.Carleton on Friday, March 6, 2015 6:03 PM

It's been close to a year since Dash 9-44CW 616 was rebuilt into what has been labeled as an AC44C4M with A1A trucks and AC traction motors. Have there been any further developments?

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Friday, March 6, 2015 6:24 PM

It was still testing as of earlier this year, so I imagine that a decision will be a while yet. 

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Posted by JON J HULTMAN on Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:55 PM

I heard recently they sent 6 more ex ATSF Dash 9's down to the GE Shop in Mexico for rebuilding. I can't recall the numbers.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Saturday, July 4, 2015 1:23 AM

Anyone else heard anything? I looked around at places like Loconotes and came up empty handed. 

I'm most curious about their numbers. If they fall in the 599-699 block, then it's playing out as expected so far and any rebuilds are coming from the early order of C44-9W's that the Santa Fe received in 1994.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:02 AM

I can't attest to its accuracy, but this site makes it sound like this program is a go.

http://locomotive.wikia.com/wiki/GE/BNSF_AC44C4M

It claims that almost all of the class is presently stored and that 8 units are now in Mexico for rebuilding. And it states that it's the 600 class that's slated for this, as suspected (Or should that now be the 599 class? lol).

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Posted by GDRMCo on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:41 AM
Wouldn't trust a word of Locomotive Wiki (group of railfans) or Trains and Locomotives Wiki (one stubborn idiot kicked from Locomotive Wiki). Thought it was almost from the start when 616 showed up that the AC44CM program was a go.

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Posted by GreatBeach on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:45 AM

Are US trains bigger in the world ( in terms of height and long )

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:22 AM

I certainly wouldn't trust it, but it seems to be the only place that says anything like what an earlier poster said.

As for the program having been green-lit from the start, perhaps. I suppose they might've just been evaluating the prototype all this time before coming up with a final spec for her sisters.

I interpreted it though more like the GP60B cab conversion prototype, with the actual decision on if it's going to become a production locomotive or remain a species of 1 being dependent on how the rebuilding and subsequent testing pans out with the prototype. 

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Posted by Entropy on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:02 PM

GreatBeach

Are US trains bigger in the world ( in terms of height and long )

Yes.

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Posted by tdmidget on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 2:58 PM

Who would be doing the work on them in Mexico?

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Posted by caldreamer on Wednesday, August 26, 2015 5:08 PM

The work is being done by GE in their plant in Mexico.

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Posted by M636C on Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:13 AM
caldreamer wrote the following post 6 hours ago:

The work is being done by GE in their plant in Mexico.

San Luis Potosi?

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Monday, August 31, 2015 5:22 AM

Looks like #600 has been rebuilt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCM8pjRfED0

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Posted by M636C on Monday, August 31, 2015 8:38 AM

M636C
caldreamer wrote the following post 6 hours ago:

The work is being done by GE in their plant in Mexico.

San Luis Potosi?

M636C

 

Answered by the caption to the video:

Nueva AC44C4M del BNSF en Heritage 3, modificada en los talleres de San Luis Potosí, México.

They do a nice paint job there...

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Posted by GETXGEMS on Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:39 PM

I can verify that BNSF 600 is sitting at the GE plant in Ft. Worth, we are doing some testing before handing it back. 

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Posted by BrendenPerkins on Monday, October 5, 2015 8:30 PM

616 is roaming the system in general service just like a regular C4. The plan is to rebuild all of the ATSF dash 9s. The 700, 900 and 1000 series units are also In storage,  I'd say they await the same outcome. 

 

The macs are being upgraded too. I believe the plan is to change out some parts of the electrical system to make them reliable for the considerable future. They will remain mostly in unit train service. 

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Tuesday, October 6, 2015 12:40 AM

I doubt they'll be rebuilding those to these standards. These BNSF purchased units didn't have the older electrical system of the Santa Fe's 600 class and have similar specifications to the 4000's.

Nothing inferior with them that would justify an extensive rebuilding to C4 style specifications. I have little doubt that these useful Dash 9's that are a bit older and stored are under consideration for a rebuilding project, especially given that the earliest non-standard units inherited from the Santa Fe are being extensively rebuilt.

But I'd be surprised to see them come out as A1A C4 machines. 

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