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An RS3 with a 'Touristic' train in Brazil

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An RS3 with a 'Touristic' train in Brazil
Posted by Mario_v on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:07 PM

Hello all ;

Here's a video showing a venerable RS3 (I think it's an RS3 judging by the forward windows in the 'smallhood' with rounded corners), with its original 244 'singing' and its 'bçaaat' hotrn.The train is operated by SãoPaulo's CPTM (São Paulo's transit operator)

watch?v=u9vba x4HBQ

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Posted by Firelock76 on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:24 PM

It sure looks like an RS-3 to me.  Looks good, sounds good, who says ALCO's don't last?

Thanks for posting, Mario!

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Posted by NorthWest on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:19 PM

Thumbs Up

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Posted by earlydiesels on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:49 PM
Given good maintenance, an Alco should last a long time and with good fuel economy.
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Posted by Mario_v on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:35 AM

When I was a kid, I used to see such units (ok, these wre RSC's - both 2 & 3 - some of it are still working for contractors) and also some 44 tonners on a daily basis (and I0m not very old, only 36)

watch?v=PYeZgm87mUY

As I said, there are still some RSC's here working for contractors. Here one of it can be seen, being switched (since these units belong to contrcators, they can no longer be used in main line trains,, only in works areas being driven by 'pilots' (that's the local parlance) and hauling material trains, such as balast or rail)

watch?v=BayWvli2hsc

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Posted by DS4-4-1000 on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:56 AM

That one is confusing.  It has the body of an RS2 (no battery boxes on the running board) but has a fuel tank of an RS3 (the RS2 had the fuel tank under the floor in the cab)

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Posted by Mario_v on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:47 AM

DS4-4-1000

That one is confusing.  It has the body of an RS2 (no battery boxes on the running board) but has a fuel tank of an RS3 (the RS2 had the fuel tank under the floor in the cab)

I think that these boxes were moved to the present location when these engines got a new 251 engine in the 70s (makeing them some sort of a crossing between a C420 and an RS unit). That's also the origin of the bulge on the top of the long hood and extra ventilaition entrances in their sides

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Posted by lone geep on Monday, December 16, 2013 10:41 AM

Are the passenger cars in the first video ex-Amtrak? They look awfully similar to Amfleets to me!

Lone Geep 

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Posted by Mario_v on Monday, December 16, 2013 11:18 AM

lone geep

Are the passenger cars in the first video ex-Amtrak? They look awfully similar to Amfleets to me!

Nope, in fact these were built locally and were originally metre gauge, belonging to Mogiana Railway

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Posted by DANIEL KRAMER on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:35 AM

It is a RS-3, used as MOW locomotive for São Paulo commuter and urban train network - CPTM (the passenger services are all EMUs) The cars are locally built, BUDD licensed designs, and were restored by Brazilian Railroad Preservation Association (ABPF), then handed over to CPTM for touristic trains on CPTM's lines sice ABPF does not have autorization to use lines that are used for passenger or freight, only closed touristic lines.

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Posted by Mario_v on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:39 PM

DANIEL KRAMER

It is a RS-3, used as MOW locomotive for São Paulo commuter and urban train network - CPTM (the passenger services are all EMUs) The cars are locally built, BUDD licensed designs, and were restored by Brazilian Railroad Preservation Association (ABPF), then handed over to CPTM for touristic trains on CPTM's lines sice ABPF does not have autorization to use lines that are used for passenger or freight, only closed touristic lines.

DANIEL KRAMER

It is a RS-3, used as MOW locomotive for São Paulo commuter and urban train network - CPTM (the passenger services are all EMUs) The cars are locally built, BUDD licensed designs, and were restored by Brazilian Railroad Preservation Association (ABPF), then handed over to CPTM for touristic trains on CPTM's lines sice ABPF does not have autorization to use lines that are used for passenger or freight, only closed touristic lines.

I've seen more recent videos from this engine supporting some strange structures in the hoods and air conditioners on the top of the hoods. When was that applied ?

Another doubt; CPTM's trains, and this one in particular, seem to move rather slowly, what's their top  operational speed? I know the former Renfe (50 bought someyears ago, in Spain these belonged to the modernised S/440 series) units can reach 140 Kmhr,but that is far frombeing reached (although in the SP to Campinas former EFSJ/CPEF Route that could be handy in some sections for a Regional/Outer suburban service, maybe if the new operator of Viracopos airport goes ahead with its idea of having fast services to SãoPaulo will make that a reality - just me thinking/dreaming high)

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Posted by DANIEL KRAMER on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:18 PM

The top allowed speed is 90 kph, but it is due to the track, not the EMUs which could go much faster. The Campinas -São Paulo line is used only for cargo from Jundiaí northwards (about 60 km to Campinas) and the tracks are not maintened for speed and had its overhead eletrification removed around 1990, therefore any Campinas - São Paulo passenger rail connection is kind of a long shot...

On top of the short hood was installed a AC unit, which became company standard around 2010. It is the only structure that is documented as standard for CPTM's RS-3.

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