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SD70ACe-P4 Status?

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Posted by beaulieu on Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:29 AM

BNSF cancelled the order in favor of standard SD70ACes because the P4 requires the "One Inverter per axle design" the software for which is still being debugged. BNSF did not want to lose the 10 Locomotives in the 2013 production queue so the opted to have them built as standard.

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:19 PM

beaulieu

Cancelled, with the SD70ACe order being increased. BNSF decided that the model would not be ready in a timely manner.

BNSF cancelled plans to modify several existing SD70ACe's in the fleet to that standard for testing and instead placed an order for 10 built new prototypes. Are you sure they've now cancelled that too?

I have to think that with the success of the GE equivalent on BNSF that EMD is still underway with the project one way or another. Didn't they already convert a builder owned demo to that standard for test purposes? 

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Posted by carnej1 on Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:29 AM

jrbernier

  I had heard that BNSF had changed the initial 10 engines to straight 6 motor SD70ACe engines due to needing new engines immediately.  And is the dual inverter still 'standard', or is the 6 inverter setup the new standard, or an option?

Jim

 What I have read (including in TRAINS) is that the one inverter-per-traction motor design will be standard, although I imagine if a customer really wanted the older one inverter-per-truck design they may well be able to order it..

IINM, there will not be any production locomotives delivered with the redesigned system until 2014 but there is a prototype being tested now.

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Posted by jrbernier on Monday, June 24, 2013 4:05 PM

  I had heard that BNSF had changed the initial 10 engines to straight 6 motor SD70ACe engines due to needing new engines immediately.  And is the dual inverter still 'standard', or is the 6 inverter setup the new standard, or an option?

Jim

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Posted by carnej1 on Monday, June 24, 2013 12:30 PM

 I wonder if the model will be resurrected when the "product improved" SD70ACe with one AC inverter per traction motor becomes the standard production model in a couple years...

  Perhaps more likely if more of the industry embraces the replacement of six motored DC locomotives with 4 motored AC power...

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Posted by beaulieu on Monday, June 24, 2013 12:23 PM

Cancelled, with the SD70ACe order being increased. BNSF decided that the model would not be ready in a timely manner.

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SD70ACe-P4 Status?
Posted by jrbernier on Friday, June 21, 2013 11:03 PM

  What is the current status of EMD's SD70ACe-P4 project?

Jim

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