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Locomotives riding on recycled trucks from another manufacturer

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, September 28, 2012 10:08 PM

The MKT RR had a fleet of Alco RS3m's that were converted by EMD using the Alco  Short hoods and frames, and trucks. The Long hood was created from a GP-9 to house a 567 Diesel.  Looked something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Missouri_Kansas_Texas_locomotive_142.jpg

This engine now lives on the Midland Railway and operates on  ex AT&SF between Baldwin City,Ks and Ottawa,Ks.

See this linked site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS3m

FTL: "...Perhaps one of the earliest examples of the RS3m is the former Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad's RS3m fleet. Built in the early 1950s by ALCO, the Katy had them rebuilt in the late 1950s by ALCO competitor, EMD, who rebuilt them with GP9 long hoods to make room for the larger EMD 567 prime movers..."

During the 1950/1960's a number of railroads rebuilt power using any number of combinations of  parts, to create unique units suited to their own operational and maintenance needs. Sort of a period of real railroad 'kitbashing'.

 

 


 

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Posted by erikem on Friday, September 28, 2012 9:50 PM

The U50B's and Alco C855's ran on recycled B+B-B+B assemblies from the 4500HP gas turbine locomotives, whereas the U50C's were from the 8500HP gas turbine locomotives.

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Posted by rcdrye on Friday, September 28, 2012 6:30 AM

They weren't exactly from another manufacturer, but UP's U50Cs ran on trucks recycled from GE gas trubines.

Soo retrucked RSC2s (and an RSC3) with trucks from Baldwin DRS4-4-1500s and AS16s in the mid 1960s.

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Posted by Inside Observer on Friday, September 28, 2012 12:09 AM
NYC U25B with FM trucks.

Alaska GP 7s on alco trucks.

Some of the Blomberg trucks on todays locomotives may have been on FTs of the 1940s, althouvh this is not a cross brand swap.
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Posted by cthart on Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:32 AM

Yes, there are quite a few examples of GP30s and GP35s running on traded in Alco trucks.

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Posted by Ron Hill on Monday, September 24, 2012 8:10 PM

Was not the GM&O GP-35's using another manufactures trucks?

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Posted by cthart on Monday, September 17, 2012 10:50 AM

Could you find any more info on this?

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Posted by mackb4 on Thursday, August 9, 2012 12:25 AM

 Hello Colin.

    I work for the Norfolk Southern and several years back I was inspecting my lead unit after my conductor and I thought it rode sorta weird and noticed the GE had six axle EMD trucks under it. Huh?

  I've never encountered this since,and can't remember the unit number,although I do remember it was a Dash-8  series most likely a 8800 or 8900 series.

 

 By the way,cool name Cool

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Posted by M636C on Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:32 AM

cthart

Hi,

There are more than a few examples of locomotives riding on recycled trucks from another manufacturer. GP35s running on Alco trucks and U-boats running on Blombergs spring to mind.

However: are there any 6-axle examples?

Cheers,

Colin

cthart,

I see your avatar is a BHP Billiton AC6000CW. That operator had eight GE C36-7s and 34 C40-8s that were built on the complete frames of Alco C636s and their unique M636s which had C636 trucks, known as M636Cs. The next operator to the West of BHP Billiton, Robe River, had ten C40-8s built similarly on C636 and M636 frames, although their M636s had the intended MLW-Dofasco design trucks.

A number of early Canadian National GE Dash 9s had MLW-Dofasco trucks, possibly from scrapped M630s (or maybe new). CN liked that truck since it reduced lateral forces in curves and allowed the use of C630Ms and M630s on lighter track than would take SD40s for example.

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Monday, August 6, 2012 3:11 PM

NW C630s on FM Train Master trucks.

CO SD18s on Alco Tri-Mount trucks.

CN Dash 8 cowls on MLW trucks.

Some Conrail MT6 slugs were retrucked with EMD Flexicoils after the original Alco Tri-Mounts became hard to maintain.

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Locomotives riding on recycled trucks from another manufacturer
Posted by cthart on Monday, August 6, 2012 3:03 PM

Hi,

There are more than a few examples of locomotives riding on recycled trucks from another manufacturer. GP35s running on Alco trucks and U-boats running on Blombergs spring to mind.

However: are there any 6-axle examples?

Cheers,

Colin

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