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what type locos?
Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, April 29, 2012 10:02 AM

In september 69 I took the train cn from toronto to newyork .The coaches were black and grey but i did not see the locos could they have been E8s or Alcos?rambo1...

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:28 PM

In 69 most certianly E-7's and/or E-8's.   Coaches were dark and light grey with white stripes and lettering, and locos were similar with the lightning motive.  There may have been some stainless steel cars in the consist also.   This was after the 20th Century and other name trains were discontinued, and your equipment from Toronto was combined in Buffalo with equipment from Cincinnati, St. Louis, Chicago via Cleveland, and Chicago via Detroit into one long train, possibly up to 22 cars, probably with an A-B-A combination of E-units, to Albany, where a few cars would be cut off to run to Boston, and the rest down to Croton-Harmon, where a single box-cab P-motor, ex-Cleveland Terminal, would take the train on third rail power to Grand Central Terminal.

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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:39 PM

it was an overnight  I don't remember stopping anyware. rambo1...

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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:42 PM

also I couldn't sleep too much be cause of the horns. rambo1..

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Posted by rambo1 on Sunday, April 29, 2012 7:45 PM

also would they  not have locos black red with zebra stripes ?

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, April 30, 2012 3:10 AM

You are correct about the Zebra, one stripe, that is the lighting stripe I mentioned.   The P-unit electric that you saw at Grand Central Terminal when you existed the train and walked to the concourse may have had zebra white stripes front and rear, since a few P' s did get that treatment as an experiment for a short time.   The New York Central never used red on any of its passenger equpment or locomotives.   Never.   However, there may have been a Candadian Pacific car in the consist coming from Toronto.

However,. the E units may have been on YOUR train only from Buffalo to Croton Harmon.   Possibly one or two Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo road-switchers pulled your equpiment from Toronto to Buffalo, possibly GP-7's or GP-9's.   Since that railroad was jointly owned by CP and NYC, red may have been used on their locomotives.  MY impression was they always used the NYCentral paint schemes but I may be wrong.

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Posted by rambo1 on Monday, April 30, 2012 6:42 PM

very interesting to knowing thankyou very much.rambo1..

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