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SDP40s = SD22ECOs KCS #2600 and #2601

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SDP40s = SD22ECOs KCS #2600 and #2601
Posted by Lyon_Wonder on Sunday, January 10, 2010 10:45 PM

A couple of former Mexican TFM SDP40s have been rebuilt into SD22ECOs for Kansas City Southern.  They’re both in KCS’s “Belle” paint scheme and still look like SDP40s, even though they now have a 8-710ECO.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=310040&nseq=50

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=307867

The SDP40s were rare loco, an SD40-type with a boiler on the rear of the long hood for passenger service. The only 2 original buyers of SDP40s were Great Northern here in the US and FNM in Mexico.  GN’s SDP40's were folded into BN and later BNSF, and one former BN SDP40 is with Montana RailLink as MRL #290.   

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, January 11, 2010 11:18 AM

Lyon_Wonder

A couple of former Mexican TFM SDP40s have been rebuilt into SD22ECOs for Kansas City Southern.  They’re both in KCS’s “Belle” paint scheme and still look like SDP40s, even though they now have a 8-710ECO.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=310040&nseq=50

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=307867

The SDP40s were rare loco, an SD40-type with a boiler on the rear of the long hood for passenger service. The only 2 original buyers of SDP40s were Great Northern here in the US and FNM in Mexico.  GN’s SDP40's were folded into BN and later BNSF, and one former BN SDP40 is with Montana RailLink as MRL #290.   

  It would be interesting to know if they retain their passenger train gearing, and if the boilers are still in place to allow that use of these engines?

   Also could it be assumed that they might appear as a back-up power for the Business Train  applications used by KCS management?

 

 


 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, January 11, 2010 12:04 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if they were re-geared and had their steam generators removed as part of the rebuilding process.  At any rate, I've noticed that both the GP22ECO's and SD22ECO's retain the body style of their core units.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, January 11, 2010 6:17 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH

I wouldn't be surprised if they were re-geared and had their steam generators removed as part of the rebuilding process.  At any rate, I've noticed that both the GP22ECO's and SD22ECO's retain the body style of their core units.

Does it appear that the split tank (fuel and water) is still in place? If so it could still carry water if the tank wasn't modified?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:03 AM

Steam generators would be worthless except as ballast for the locomotive since passenger cars today are set up for HEP in order to be Amtrak compatible.

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Posted by Lyon_Wonder on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:44 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH

Steam generators would be worthless except as ballast for the locomotive since passenger cars today are set up for HEP in order to be Amtrak compatible.

I assume that KCS's F9s have HEP?


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Posted by MJChittick on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:49 PM

Lyon_Wonder

I assume that KCS's F9s have HEP?


Not necessarily.  It's more likely they use Power Cars a la the Union Pacific.

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Posted by jrbernier on Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:45 PM

   The boilers were disabled, the 'baffle' between the fuel & water tank was opened,and the traction motors were re-geared years ago by BN.  Keeping the boilers active would require scheduled inspection.  These engines were last used in regular passenger service in 1971!  And with the SD22ECO rebuild, they are now only rated at 2200 hp - I would suspect the will be used for transfer/yard service.

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Posted by BLW ENGR on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:14 AM

Boilers are still there for ballast, they are ex NDeM engines, not BN/GN.

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