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"Honorary Steam Locomotive"

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Posted by Kootenay Central on Friday, August 28, 2009 4:16 PM

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, August 28, 2009 1:27 PM

Of course Alcos in general were sometimes referred to as "honorary steam engines" due to the fact that they were one of the few diesel types that produced smoke like a steam engine. 

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Posted by trezjr on Friday, August 28, 2009 11:57 AM

Yes, that sounds right.

DPM used to write 2-page profiles at the beginning of each issue.

One of them was on the "honorary steam" claim.

I need the issue date, page and perhaps a scan of those pages.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, August 28, 2009 10:04 AM

The quote is properly attributable to George W. Hilton.  He used it in a review of John Rehor's "The Nickel Plate Story", when he observed on the paucity of diesel photos except for the NKP PA's , "which seem to have been elevated to the status of honorary steam locomotives".

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, August 28, 2009 9:23 AM

You might want to check the Beebe books too, to see if the photograph and caption actually existed. If so, that would give you a primary source for the term, as opposed to DPM saying he thought the term originated with Hilton or whoever. Smile

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"Honorary Steam Locomotive"
Posted by trezjr on Friday, August 28, 2009 8:22 AM

An article on Wikipedia referencing the Alco PA needs a verification on the item of "honorary steam locomotive". Back in the 1960s or 70s then TRAINS editor David P. Morgan authored a piece crediting the phrase to Professor George W. Hilton, possibly in a caption of a photograph in a Lucius Beebe book.

Can anyone verify this, citing the actual location of the article in the magazine (issue, date and pages)?

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