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Video of 9 Locomotives "Old Breed"
Posted by Awesome! on Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:47 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

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Posted by wabash1 on Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:19 PM

Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

All you need to do is come to st.louis and look at train 111. a train with that many engines is a pain.

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Posted by FTGT725 on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:45 PM

Call me crazy but I only counted 8 locos.

In my experience, the light at the end of the tunnel is usually the train.
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Posted by Kootenay Central on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:15 PM

 

Great, Thank You!

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:03 PM

Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

The video froze up while I was watching but I got the general idea.  Nice catch by the videographer.  I would guess that for the most part the GP38s were being moved to someplace rather than being used to power the train.
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Posted by Awesome! on Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:31 PM

Whe

trainfan1221

Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

The video froze up while I was watching but I got the general idea.  Nice catch by the videographer.  I would guess that for the most part the GP38s were being moved to someplace rather than being used to power the train.

Awesome steam video.. Let's be honest to each other. Where you could find long trains been pulled 8 or more locomotives?

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Posted by wabash1 on Friday, July 17, 2009 4:31 AM

Awesome!

Whe

trainfan1221

Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

The video froze up while I was watching but I got the general idea.  Nice catch by the videographer.  I would guess that for the most part the GP38s were being moved to someplace rather than being used to power the train.

Awesome steam video.. Let's be honest to each other. Where you could find long trains been pulled 8 or more locomotives?

Nowhere in the united states as 8 units on line would get you fired unless they was all 4 axel units and a solid train like coal or grain

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Friday, July 17, 2009 12:19 PM

11 motors here, but only 5 in use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4P2gjEsDak

Switching with such a consist is poor.  (Yes, I am the engineer on this)

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Posted by eolafan on Friday, July 17, 2009 4:01 PM

WSOR 3801

11 motors here, but only 5 in use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4P2gjEsDak

Switching with such a consist is poor.  (Yes, I am the engineer on this)

 

Do you recall which WSOR line you were on and what towns you went through with this monster and what was the reason for so much power?
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Posted by trainfan1221 on Friday, July 17, 2009 4:19 PM

wabash1

Awesome!

Whe

trainfan1221

Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdRn1aQ3c

Where you could find a long 9 locomotives train? Rare species!!

The video froze up while I was watching but I got the general idea.  Nice catch by the videographer.  I would guess that for the most part the GP38s were being moved to someplace rather than being used to power the train.

Awesome steam video.. Let's be honest to each other. Where you could find long trains been pulled 8 or more locomotives?

Nowhere in the united states as 8 units on line would get you fired unless they was all 4 axel units and a solid train like coal or grain

Hi wabash,

 You got me intrigued by this statement, can you please explain why?

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Posted by wabash1 on Friday, July 17, 2009 9:26 PM

with out getting high tech, the rule says you can only have the equivelent of 24 axels on line for power  and 18 axels for dynamic. the key is that you must know what you have,  Dash 8 &9 and those new evo type junk things and the sd60 - 70 are considered 8 axel units . Reason is they are high adhision units rated at 1 1/3 axel for power so 6 axel at regular then the 1/3 x6 = 2 so 2+6=8  a gp38 is a 4 axel unit and is standard so its just 4 a sd 40 is standard axel so its a 6 axel unit. now the AC motors considered 9 axel units because they are rated at 1 1/2 per axel. So if you have a AC unit and 2 dash 9 the total axel count is 25. cant use all 3 unless you cut 1 axel out which takes you to 23 2/3 axels. ( and a reduction in tonnage rating but that is another day topic) or you can do as most guys do and run it as 25 axels and hope you dont get caught. Now if your running a coal train or grain train you can run up to 32 powered axels power and 24 axels dynamic. This does not include radio or DP units. there is differant rules for them. But in reality you might have alot of engines but they all may not be working and most generally they make sure your underpowered over tonnage

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Posted by Awesome! on Friday, July 17, 2009 11:20 PM

wabash1

with out getting high tech, the rule says you can only have the equivelent of 24 axels on line for power  and 18 axels for dynamic. the key is that you must know what you have,  Dash 8 &9 and those new evo type junk things and the sd60 - 70 are considered 8 axel units . Reason is they are high adhision units rated at 1 1/3 axel for power so 6 axel at regular then the 1/3 x6 = 2 so 2+6=8  a gp38 is a 4 axel unit and is standard so its just 4 a sd 40 is standard axel so its a 6 axel unit. now the AC motors considered 9 axel units because they are rated at 1 1/2 per axel. So if you have a AC unit and 2 dash 9 the total axel count is 25. cant use all 3 unless you cut 1 axel out which takes you to 23 2/3 axels. ( and a reduction in tonnage rating but that is another day topic) or you can do as most guys do and run it as 25 axels and hope you dont get caught. Now if your running a coal train or grain train you can run up to 32 powered axels power and 24 axels dynamic. This does not include radio or DP units. there is differant rules for them. But in reality you might have alot of engines but they all may not be working and most generally they make sure your underpowered over tonnage

If you have a train the same distance for example:

100 Coal

100 Gondolas

100 Oil Tankers

Which of these are heavy to pull and what configuration you would used?

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Posted by wabash1 on Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:33 PM

Awesome!

wabash1

with out getting high tech, the rule says you can only have the equivelent of 24 axels on line for power  and 18 axels for dynamic. the key is that you must know what you have,  Dash 8 &9 and those new evo type junk things and the sd60 - 70 are considered 8 axel units . Reason is they are high adhision units rated at 1 1/3 axel for power so 6 axel at regular then the 1/3 x6 = 2 so 2+6=8  a gp38 is a 4 axel unit and is standard so its just 4 a sd 40 is standard axel so its a 6 axel unit. now the AC motors considered 9 axel units because they are rated at 1 1/2 per axel. So if you have a AC unit and 2 dash 9 the total axel count is 25. cant use all 3 unless you cut 1 axel out which takes you to 23 2/3 axels. ( and a reduction in tonnage rating but that is another day topic) or you can do as most guys do and run it as 25 axels and hope you dont get caught. Now if your running a coal train or grain train you can run up to 32 powered axels power and 24 axels dynamic. This does not include radio or DP units. there is differant rules for them. But in reality you might have alot of engines but they all may not be working and most generally they make sure your underpowered over tonnage

If you have a train the same distance for example:

100 Coal

100 Gondolas

100 Oil Tankers

Which of these are heavy to pull and what configuration you would used?

100 coal is heavier then comes the oil tankers then the gons. and I rather use the sd70s but if i had to i would use the dash 9s

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Posted by blade on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:02 AM

wow i seen the video and was simply amazed at all those locomotives i counted eight and it must of have been one duzzy of a long train......i read in a trainsmag about three years ago of the longest train in the australia at 10 000 that is correct ten thousand feet long.

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:47 AM

eolafan
Do you recall which WSOR line you were on and what towns you went through with this monster and what was the reason for so much power?

 

Started in Horicon, went down to Slinger, then down the CN to Grand Ave Waukesha, then west to Milton.  The video starts in Eagle, as a good part of the trip is covered in darkness.  

There were over 100 cars, so the train needed a good amount of power.  The rest was to get the power back to Janesville, as power had been accumulating in Horicon for a day or two.  Usually the power that takes the train from Janesville to Horicon goes right back down, with extra sent Saturday morning, as there are only 5 trips down in a week, but 6-7 trips up.  

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Posted by wabash1 on Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:11 AM

blade

wow i seen the video and was simply amazed at all those locomotives i counted eight and it must of have been one duzzy of a long train......i read in a trainsmag about three years ago of the longest train in the australia at 10 000 that is correct ten thousand feet long.

10,000 feet is not long in fact most stack trains and alot of the autorack trains run 9500-10500 here in the united states.  

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Posted by Awesome! on Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzgdr3n5xJI

What about 10 Locomotives???

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Posted by Awesome! on Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:36 PM

wabash1

blade

wow i seen the video and was simply amazed at all those locomotives i counted eight and it must of have been one duzzy of a long train......i read in a trainsmag about three years ago of the longest train in the australia at 10 000 that is correct ten thousand feet long.

10,000 feet is not long in fact most stack trains and alot of the autorack trains run 9500-10500 here in the united states.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LsuNWjRaAo

 

THe longest train in world. Take a look at this video!! Awesome!

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Posted by Awesome! on Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:42 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GtQSJhZtKw&NR=1

 

We have 7 locos in Tasmania..

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Posted by wabash1 on Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:36 PM

I am not going to watch a bunch of videos of trains , I get enough train watching at work. I do know that 10k is not uncommon as i pull 2mile long trains . they are the easiest trains to run. but be amazed and as far as engines go when you start talking slave units or distributed power its totaly differant.

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Posted by route_rock on Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:48 AM

  10,000 foot was a goal for BNSF. They made such a big deal about that train running from Corwith to LA and our terminal was bragging  "Only on BNSF will you see a 10,000 foot train!" Cant figure out why they got mad when i said that the ICE was pulling junk trains with SD 40's at roughly 12,000 feet on regular occasions.Hell the N&W pulled coal trains with over 200 cars in Ohio but here we were acting like Gods gift to railroading.

 

  That many engines is a pain to run. You lose some of the "seat of your pants"feelingyou get. Plus having to tie them all down at the end of 12 hours isnt always fun.

Yes we are on time but this is yesterdays train

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Posted by Awesome! on Friday, July 31, 2009 1:32 PM

route_rock

  10,000 foot was a goal for BNSF. They made such a big deal about that train running from Corwith to LA and our terminal was bragging  "Only on BNSF will you see a 10,000 foot train!" Cant figure out why they got mad when i said that the ICE was pulling junk trains with SD 40's at roughly 12,000 feet on regular occasions.Hell the N&W pulled coal trains with over 200 cars in Ohio but here we were acting like Gods gift to railroading.

 

  That many engines is a pain to run. You lose some of the "seat of your pants"feelingyou get. Plus having to tie them all down at the end of 12 hours isnt always fun.

Check this out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M32IKJvZ5c

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Posted by Tugboat Tony on Sunday, August 2, 2009 6:09 AM

 When I was in Colorado we routinely would run 12 C44AC's or SD9043MACs on the point of empty coal trains to keep power balanced between Denver and Grand Junction. A 20 unit E-move wasnt uncommon at all.  There are several 10-12000 foot intermodal trains running here on the UP, the KG1LA and KG2SE are usually in this range.

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