The thought behind multiple liveries at BNSF was as follows: Warbonnets would work intermodal, Grinstein Green would handle coal and mineral freight, and Heritage would be for everything else. Realistically, engine house foremen are not going to dispatch motive power based on paint jobs, and it would not have been long before some really hideous lash-ups would turn up on the point of a Z-train. What sounded good on paper was impractical in practice so the Heritage colors became standard. Besides, the current paint used on ATSF's last warbonnets faded badly and it wasn't long before a vibrant red became a pale pink. I still think that PHL did a nice job in using Santa Fe colors for its current fleet.
Awesome is absolutely right!!! Locos in the warbonnet as well as the Grinstein colors were delivered after the merger, hence invalidating the argument that they dropped them in order to stop SF and BN employee rivalry from developing. These two roads were friendly connections and long time allies, not rivals. Krebs is the person who picked the orange shemes and implemented them without any cost savings. It would at least help to have a name and not a collection of consonants like Eastern connection CSX, who should just change its name to Chessie System. It would be great if BNSF changes its name to Santa Fe as well, then all of the class ones would have simple and easy to remember names.
As far as I'm concerned, railroads and railroading will never get boring. Although the number of major roads has shrunk dramatically, run-through and lease power, new types of locomotive and cars and various other changes will always keep things interesting.
As I said in an earlier post, the warbonnets may disappear but Santa Fe colors will continue.
JCRQIsn't BNSF pretty much Keeping the WarBonnet Heritage alive the only thingis it's changing the label over to BNSF instead of Santa Fe. cuz u still do see warbonnets. Atleast they're still around. a month ago i was up in sand patch camping and a Warbonnet was on the lead with a shiny new Paint scheme but it just had BNSF instead.
I don't think so as far as I know.
As far as i've heared thay are re-painting them all into pumpkins. Too bad though.
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Awesome! They should bring back the old colors and the name!
They should bring back the old colors and the name!
Except for the name, Pacific Harbor Line runs its power in the old ATSF colors!
The only way to see the Santa Fe Warbonnet scheme looking new is on a highly detailed scale model.
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I also liked the Frisco's GP15-1's. Theay looked nice.
The Frisco,as well as Santa Fe,had red and silver E units.The Frisco,s were not warbonnets of course,but the Frisco Es looked great.AIRC,the Frisco had fluting on the silver sides of thier Es.
Sunnyland Some good looking photos. But I have to admit when I see BNSF, I always thing of the SF as part of the Frisco name-SLSF. But that's just me, because of my family history with the old Frisco. With BN, nothing brought Frisco to mind, but BNSF does. I apologize to any Santa Fe fans or employees, but again I said that's just me. Frisco will always live in my heart.
Some good looking photos. But I have to admit when I see BNSF, I always thing of the SF as part of the Frisco name-SLSF. But that's just me, because of my family history with the old Frisco.
With BN, nothing brought Frisco to mind, but BNSF does. I apologize to any Santa Fe fans or
employees, but again I said that's just me. Frisco will always live in my heart.
Hay, you should stick to youre guns. I look at the warbonnets and it brings to mind what the good ol' days would have been like.
The 98,visible in one photo,Is preserved at the Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris,CA. This engine is operable and is run on special occasions.
In my youth and now in my retirement, I live just a few short miles from the Erie (PA) GE Plant where alot of the Warbonnets were built. To see several of them lined up on the ready track in brand new paint was a sight to see. Too bad my youthful side didn't think to take some pictures. The same site is still visible today from the Franklin Ave. bridge, but with these tough times, it's hard to catch a new anything there, let alone a whole string of them.
Ahh, for the "good ol' days" ??!!??
I like the BNSF scheme well enough, but I know thw Warbonnet was considered the classic railroad scheme. I hope some will still be around awhile, I have seen pictures of them really faded. At that point repainting them into either scheme would be the merciful thing to do.
Nice shots! I wish BNSF would have stuck with the Warbonnet. Fortunately, there are still some of these running around. Some are faded pretty awfully, but I managed to catch this still good looking unit leading on Saturday:
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Kootenay CentralToo bad one of the extant PAs was not painted this way once again, and out haulling excursions. The PAs looked good painted D&H, as did the Sharks.
Too bad one of the extant PAs was not painted this way once again, and out haulling excursions.
The PAs looked good painted D&H, as did the Sharks.
I was surprised that Doyle's PA being restored was painted in the NKP scheme, but it is his PA and he can do whatever he wants with it. Does anyone know if the other unit will be done in Santa Fe. There are two units and the other unit will be restored for a Museum if I remember correctly.
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Nice!
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The warbonnet is, I think, is the most classic memorable scheems in history. By far my favorite by far! Like the -8's I think right? Nice shots my friend. Also like the F45's.
selectorI'm not big on diesels, CZ, or haven't been (more accurately), but I must say I like the paint on these units. Who knows, I may just have to model those....... Nice images! -Crandell
I'm not big on diesels, CZ, or haven't been (more accurately), but I must say I like the paint on these units. Who knows, I may just have to model those.......
Nice images!
-Crandell
Crandell
Thanks. The red and silver was very attractive and gave Santa Fe immediate recognition. When they announced the return of the Warbonnet paint in 1990, they painted the FP45's back into the Warbonnet colors and ordered new diesels with the red and silver scheme. A new era for the Santa Fe began that lasted six years until the merger with BN. I took pictures of one of the 600 class yesterday still in Warbonnet, but very faded. There are a few still out there. The Warbonnet paint scheme is the reason I started taking pictures of railroads again in 1990. Except for steam excursions, I had lost interest in the general day to day railroad operations and the return of the old colors really got me interested in watching and shooting pictures again.
I liked the Santa Fe red and silver and thought a few pictures for old time sake would be nice.
SF 951 at the east end of Woodford CA.
Santa Fe 231 at Woodford siding.
Woodford meet.
Santa Fe 840 southbound near Mojave, CA.
The FP45 is #98
Santa Fe 515 at Caliente.
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