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What is this?
Posted by GRAMRR on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:04 PM

Does anyone know what this is and who it belonged to?  The photo was taken in September, 1977 at the McKees Rocks engine facility of the P&LE.

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:52 PM

It appears to be an old GE switcher (70 tonner?).   I don't know who it belonged to, can't quite make out what the writing on the cab says.

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Posted by GRAMRR on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:02 PM

It's lettered Casy Jones, C Line.

Maybe a tourist road somewhere?  The P&LE was doing a fair number of repairs for roads that didn't have facilities.  I had seen equipment lettered Montour, PC&Y, P&OV, etc.  I think these roads were still barely in business in the '70s.

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Posted by bubbajustin on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:30 PM

It's a thing...Smile Like said erlier most likley a GE 70 tonner. But wait a moment, aren't those Alco trucks? If so maby a trade in.

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Posted by kalvingp30fan on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:41 PM

I think that it is a pre-1940 ge custom industrial cetner cab.

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Posted by bubbajustin on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:50 PM

It's very ugly...

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Posted by GRAMRR on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:26 PM

Kind of have to agree.  Here's another angle.  The yellow paint looks like it was applied without benefit of masking - a lot of overspray on the darker color.  Maybe someone who used to work at "the Rocks" back in the 70s will see it and remember it.

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:16 PM

I've never heard of Casey Jones lines or anything, I think it might not be a legit paint job for a real railroad,  which I hope would apply the paint better.  Maybe it was painted for an event or something, I'm sure somebody knows.  Either way I still believe it to be an early GE, and its larger than a 44-tonner so I will still guess its a 70 ton job.  Their switchers usually were just named after how much they weighed.

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Posted by nssr9169 on Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:03 AM

As said before an ugly...very ugly GE 70 tonner

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Posted by JonathanS on Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:45 AM

GE made a lot of double engined locomotives in the 85 to 125 ton range.  This looks to be a 100 tonner similar to, but not identical to these

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Posted by kalvingp30fan on Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:09 PM

Its not a 70 tonner, those had end cabs and were not center cabs.

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Posted by narig01 on Friday, February 20, 2009 12:13 AM

 If someone has copy of the diesel spotters guide(mine is buried in storage) I remember this being in there .  with the louvers in the doors aar type a trucks most importantly the hoods angle in. If I remember correctly I think this is a 70 ton Porter. Or one of the smaller industrial manufacturers.

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, February 20, 2009 9:31 AM

Cab is certainly GE Close Clearance. Too small for 100 ton Monongahela Connecting monsters (fuels tank is short) that GE built and the hood louvers are wrong for Cooper Bessemer prime mover. Too big for 65 ton. Modified 80 Ton with a Cummins engine?? 

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Posted by kalvingp30fan on Friday, February 20, 2009 9:39 AM

I looked it up in the Diesel Spotters guide and could not find one that looked exactly like it.

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Posted by ns&emdfan on Friday, February 20, 2009 3:20 PM

Im not trying to be cocky but im almost 100% sure this is a GE 125ton center cab. This was the last center cab GE made before there now bland boring and just plain crapy looking and performing locos. And im fairly sure that it had dual Cummings engines in it and the trucks are unique to the 100ton and 125ton locos.

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:36 PM

I'll have to find it in the Diesel Spotters Guide, but I don't think its a larger one such as a 125 tonner, they had a thick frame to produce the extra weight.  This one does not appear to.

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Posted by dansapo on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:40 AM

This is a 70 model

It looks like a Whitcomb 80 ton.One thing its not...GE

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Posted by kalvingp30fan on Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:32 PM

I looked thuogh mine and did not find anything that did not exactly matched it.

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