I have a photo of my grandfather, who worked for the Milwaukee Road, sitting in the cab of a locomotive. I think it might be an E or F model (E7, F7, F9, ????) Does anyone know where I can get a picture of the interior of these cabs so that I could try to identify the model of the engine my grandfather is sitting in? Thanks!
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Just check old copies of TRAINS, etc. for such photo's. Best I can think of if no one responds with one
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Search the photos at railpictures.net. I have seen numerous interior photos on that site.
Can you scan and post the pic?? Be interesting to see it.
You could try checking some of the virtual reality sites that are around for like Trainz etc. I've seen some pretty well detailed interiors there which I assume are accurate. However, I don't know if the interior of an E was that different from an F so I'm not sure if you could tell just by that.
Best case scenario would be if the MILW stencilled the loco no. somewhere inside where you could see it in the pic I guess!!
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wjstix Can you scan and post the pic?? Be interesting to see it. You could try checking some of the virtual reality sites that are around for like Trainz etc. I've seen some pretty well detailed interiors there which I assume are accurate. However, I don't know if the interior of an E was that different from an F so I'm not sure if you could tell just by that. Best case scenario would be if the MILW stencilled the loco no. somewhere inside where you could see it in the pic I guess!!
Freight trains use pneumatic air braking system, which require the drop in trainline air pressure to sequentially operate the brake valves on each car in turn.
Having said all that, I don't know what the appearance differences are between the two forms of brake stand.
As I recollect - on the Fireman's side of the passenger engines were the controls and gauges for the steam boilers.
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The MILW used a lot of FP7s in passenger service. Not sure if they were a big user of electro-pneumatic brakes. One difference might be to see if there are two ammeters, or one. An E-unit would have 2, one for each engine.
Many passenger trains had graduated release brakes. If you took too much air, you could release a little bit, and still keep the brakes on. On a freight train, you can take more air, but if you take too much you have to "kick 'em off" (full release) and start over again. On 26 air, if the engine has passenger feature, the cutout knob has an extra position. Hard to see in a photo. Not sure how the air was done in older engines.
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Here is a link to a picture (scroll down) of an E-7 with a psgr 24RL brake valve. Note there is only one ammeter::
http://gelwood.railfan.net/manual/e7-sec1.html
The photos of the CN F-3 above in this thread show a freight 24RL brake valve. The psgr valve has a hinged handle that can be depressed downward to engage the sanding bail which applies sand and supresses a penalty brake application if foot removed from "Deadman pedal" to keep leg from cramping. Either the freight or passenger version can be set for graduated release on a psgr train or direct release on a freight train by changing the graduated release cap on the control valve.
rrboomer Here is a link to a picture (scroll down) of an E-7 with a psgr 24RL brake valve. Note there is only one ammeter:: http://gelwood.railfan.net/manual/e7-sec1.html The photos of the CN F-3 above in this thread show a freight 24RL brake valve. The psgr valve has a hinged handle that can be depressed downward to engage the sanding bail which applies sand and supresses a penalty brake application if foot removed from "Deadman pedal" to keep leg from cramping. Either the freight or passenger version can be set for graduated release on a psgr train or direct release on a freight train by changing the graduated release cap on the control valve.
Sorry it has taken me so long to post the link to this picture....I misplaced it and just found it today. I know my grandfather worked for the Milwaukee Road but know nothing else. Hope someone can identify the type of engine for me.
Link to photo: http://s552.photobucket.com/albums/jj331/toytrains25
Please let me know if the link doesn't work...I took it right from the page where photobucket has my photo posted online.
Again, thank you for any help you can give me.
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