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Posted by vsmith on Monday, December 15, 2008 11:33 AM

Thanks M636C Thumbs Up

Still love to get that smoke deflectored model! Big Smile

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Posted by M636C on Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:39 PM

vsmith

train 62

What scale is it? it looks like "G" scale.

I thought this was a Chinese copy of a Russian built locomotive. It does use 45mm G scale track, but where "G" scale is 1/22.5, this model is 1/29 scale.  Its made by Bachmann's China subsidiary for the Chinese market....  be nice to get one over here.

The prototype, class JF, dates from the late 1930s or early 1940s and would have been built either in Japan or in a Japanese controlled workshop in Manchuria which was then a Japanese territory. As built it looked pretty much like a scaled down USRA mikado (as did the Alco built units of 1918, not surprisingly).

The Chinese did build later locomotives of the same general type (with the same chassis) using a Russian design of boiler with an external main steam pipe enclosed in a skyline casing. They were class JS, and one of these was imported to the US for the Boone Valley Scenic Railroad.

This locomotive, and others named after personalities of the revolution were "modernised" by fitting the purely decorative skyline casing and smoke deflectors, which made them look more like the later locomotives then still in production.

 

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Posted by vsmith on Friday, December 12, 2008 1:48 PM

Errr..your preaching to the Choir old son...look at my signature pic, my primary gauge is 1/22.5, and I'm well versed in the wacky scale and gauge cunundrums running amok in large scale.Wink

Actually there is no such thing as G gauge, like you say, but G scale, F scale, A scale, 7/8" scale and #1 Gauge, all of which run on 45mm track. Big Smile

Love to get this version:

 

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, December 12, 2008 12:39 PM

vsmith

train 62

What scale is it? it looks like "G" scale.

I thought this was a Chinese copy of a Russian built locomotive. It does use 45mm G scale track, but where "G" scale is 1/22.5, this model is 1/29 scale.  Its made by Bachmann's China subsidiary for the Chinese market....  be nice to get one over here.

Would make sense that it's a Bachmann since they make (well, import) an HO model of a Chinese 2-8-2, as used by the Susquehanna on excursion service.

The gauge we often call "G gauge" is in fact No.1 gauge, where 1:32 scale is full size. LGB began making models of German meter gauge trains back around 1970 or earlier, to a scale of 1:22.5. This was close to 1:24 scale (1/2" = 1 ft) so many US modellers built models of US 36" gauge equipment to that scale. In recent years, the correct scale for No.1 gauge being used as 36" gauge track, which is 1:20.3 scale, sometimes called "F scale", has become the most common size for US modellers.

Anyway, a US company eventually started to make models of standard gauge trains to run on these tracks, but rather than use the correct 1:32 scale, they made them 1:29 scale so that the equipment would be closer in size to the narrow gauge models...many G gaugers with garden layouts don't worry that much about prototype (though some certainly do) so often run them all together. That's why the model pic in this post looks a little "off" compared to a pic of the real engine, or the HO version.

Pretty simple, eh?? Confused

 

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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 3:55 PM

train 62

What scale is it? it looks like "G" scale.

I thought this was a Chinese copy of a Russian built locomotive. It does use 45mm G scale track, but where "G" scale is 1/22.5, this model is 1/29 scale.  Its made by Bachmann's China subsidiary for the Chinese market....  be nice to get one over here.

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Posted by train 62 on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:15 AM

What scale is it? it looks like "G" scale.

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:56 PM

 Neat looking model, try putting a picture in the MR forums, I'm sure they would find it interesting there.

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Posted by M636C on Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:36 AM

While this posting might be in the wrong forum, it is worth pointing out that this is a model of the Chinese JF class locomotive and illustrates units named after important revolutionary figures, in this case Mao Zedung.

The locomotive itself is a Japanese built locomotive built as a copy of the standard Alco 2-8-2 supplied to the South Manchurian Railway as their 1500 class in 1918.

A number of these locomotives are preserved in China.

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chinese locomotive train model
Posted by SS7 on Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:28 AM

here is chinese locomotive train model......

 

 

 

 

 

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