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Diesel frames are cast or?

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Diesel frames are cast or?
Posted by Boyd on Friday, May 16, 2008 1:19 PM
I'm clueless on this one. Are they cast or are they plates welded together? If a frame is bent, can it be repaired or the part of another one welded onto it?

Modeling the "Fargo Area Rapid Transit" in O scale 3 rail.

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Posted by oltmannd on Friday, May 16, 2008 1:39 PM

Anything built in the past 60 years has a welded frame.  They definitely can be repaired by welding.  The limitation isn't generally the technology, its the economics.  If you're just running the last bit of life from a 3rd hand GP9, it's generally not worth fixing a bent frame.

A wreck damaged GEVO would probably be worth patching up.

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Posted by MILW205 on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:40 AM
 oltmannd wrote:

Anything built in the past 60 years has a welded frame.  They definitely can be repaired by welding.  The limitation isn't generally the technology, its the economics.  If you're just running the last bit of life from a 3rd hand GP9, it's generally not worth fixing a bent frame.

A wreck damaged GEVO would probably be worth patching up.

This certainly fits in with the aforementioned 60-year timeframe: IIRC, when EMD came out with their first switcher units, they were offered in both cast and welded frames: the SC1 and the SW1, with "C" signifying cast and "W" signifying welded.

 

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Posted by erikem on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 10:39 PM
 MILW205 wrote:
 oltmannd wrote:

Anything built in the past 60 years has a welded frame.  They definitely can be repaired by welding.  The limitation isn't generally the technology, its the economics.  If you're just running the last bit of life from a 3rd hand GP9, it's generally not worth fixing a bent frame.

A wreck damaged GEVO would probably be worth patching up.

This certainly fits in with the aforementioned 60-year timeframe: IIRC, when EMD came out with their first switcher units, they were offered in both cast and welded frames: the SC1 and the SW1, with "C" signifying cast and "W" signifying welded.

 

The 'S' in SC1 and SW1 stood for Six hundred horsepower, where  the 'N' in NW1 stood for Nine hundred horsepower. 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:20 AM
Baldwin used cast frames on some of its diesels well into the postwar era.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul

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