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It aint prototype! Amtrak Dummy Locomotives

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, April 18, 2008 10:18 AM

This link should give current status of NPCU's:  http://www.gobytrain.us/amtrak/notes/index.html#npcu

The one that turned up on the Vermonter may have been a test run.

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Posted by vtCSX on Friday, April 18, 2008 10:00 AM

I saw the Vermonter come through Montpelier last week and it still had a Genesis front and back.

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Posted by Ham549 on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 7:40 PM

Vermonter has cabbages now? Also fule tank is used for weight to make up for the lack of a prime mover (they fill it up with cement or something like that).

 

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Posted by MILW205 on Monday, April 14, 2008 9:17 AM

 martin.knoepfel wrote:
Why do the cabbage cars need a fuel-tank? For an auxiliary diesel and generator to provide the energy for the air-conditioning and lightning?

Nope, all of the HEP comes from the powered engine.  The fuel tanks on the Cabbage cars aren't used for fuel, but rather -- from what I've heard -- are filled with cement for weighting purposes.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 14, 2008 9:11 AM

  The doors on the Northesater were used for baggage...

   The Toledo-Detroit Train that ran up untill 1993 used a ex Metroliner cab car for Push-Pull Service

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Posted by doghouse on Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:07 PM

 martin.knoepfel wrote:
Why do the cabbage cars need a fuel-tank? For an auxiliary diesel and generator to provide the energy for the air-conditioning and lightning?

 

Too expensive, troublesome to remove?

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Posted by martin.knoepfel on Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:15 PM
Why do the cabbage cars need a fuel-tank? For an auxiliary diesel and generator to provide the energy for the air-conditioning and lightning?
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Posted by ArtOfRuin on Friday, April 11, 2008 7:14 PM

You're thinking of the non-powered F40PH's with rolling doors on them, right? Like this one:

 http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=230764&nseq=0

Yup, they're prototype, though the 1:1 scale railfans may object to you calling them "dummies" Wink [;)].

They're called Non-Powered Control Units (NPCU). They are also referred to as "cabbage cars." NPCUs are F40's with their prime movers and traction motors removed, and rolling doors added and empty space for baggage. The cabs retain full functionality and they are used like cab-control cars on commuter rail push-pull trains. The concept of using old locomotives as cab-control cars on passenger trains is not new (i.e. GO Transit's F-units), though using them as baggage cars is. They are actually safer since the crew is in a full-sized locomotive rather than in a passenger car vestibule while controlling the train in push mode.

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It aint prototype! Amtrak Dummy Locomotives
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 11, 2008 5:29 PM
Vermonter and the Nor-easter have Dummy Locomotives

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