http://www.locophotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=18954
Are they going back to this colors? I think is boring..
They aren't going back to it, that unit was just never repainted. It looks so clean, because it's well taken care of.
And How can you call that boring?
The current colors on BNSF 1374 may not be boring, but it might look a lot less boring in its original zebra stripes.
I guess that depends on your definition of boring.
Still, we've got PHL for that.
The work-a-day blues, an awesome description that I'ma gonna steal, just looks right around southern california, it looked right in Chicago, even when living in Oregon, it stoodout without being garish.
The BNSF Heritage schemes just don't look good down here in the desert. The yellow on H2 is too much combined with the orange and the bad GE paint is just depressing.
YoHo1975 wrote: They aren't going back to it, that unit was just never repainted. It looks so clean, because it's well taken care of. And How can you call that boring?
My opinion, when the color scheme came out. It made the company to a clean look but they forget their true colors. I mean the Warbonet... Everyone knows the Santa Fe with the Classical style..
blade wrote:after seeing the picture posted lets hope that bnsf railways dosen't go back to that yucky and tastless color scheme,the paint scheme they have on thier eengines is more colorful and pleasing to the eye.
Are you trying to rile people up or are you being honest?
Cause declaring the Yellow and Blue War Bonnet tastless puts us in SUCH a fight.
It's the second best scheme ever right behind the real warbonnet.
And their current schemes are all significantly less cool...unless you're a GN fan.
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Santa Fe did have F units painted blue and yellow warbonnets pulling freights.
Chuck
But the didn't have Red and Silver Warbonnets* pulling freight.
When you say "Warbonnet" you mean the red and silver one.
*I presume that there were occasions when passenger Fs pulled freight, but no engines were painted in that scheme to pull freight until the superfleet.
i like yellowbonnets....
i mean it'd be nice if BNSF did, but we all know they wont. and for the record, i have no problem with the orange....as long as it LOOKS orange, mind you. not that faded GE paint. no wonder the crash 8s and crash 9 warbonnets look faded and ratty while the oakway SD60s and SD70 series warbonnets still look somewhat fresh. it's the GE paint. i bet the SD70MACs never faded to pink
Your friendly neighborhood CNW fan.
YoHo I've seen photos of warbonnet Fs pulling the Super C when she was a new train without much traffic. Also U28CGs, U30CGs, and FP45s on the Super C in warbonnet. Your statement is untrue.
YoHo1975 wrote: But the didn't have Red and Silver Warbonnets* pulling freight. When you say "Warbonnet" you mean the red and silver one. *I presume that there were occasions when passenger Fs pulled freight, but no engines were painted in that scheme to pull freight until the superfleet.
Which is why I qualified the statement. No units built for freight were painted in the war bonnet.
Also, the GE Superfleet units have junk paint too.
go look at any current picuters of superfleet locos. The GE paint looks horrid pretty much across the board, but the GP60Ms, the SD75s, they still look pretty good.
Warbonnet refers to the design not the color.
See page 42 Santa Fe Trackside with Bill Gibson written by Lloyd Stagner, "In October 1949 delivery from EMD of 4500 -hp F-7 passenger locomotives began, in the 300LAB-316LAB series. Units in the 306LAB-316LAB group were considered "dual-service" locomotives with a maximum authorized speed of 80 mph. This group was subsequently renumbered 325LAB-335LAB, and were joined by 336LAB-339LAB and two unit 3000-hplocomotives 340LA-344LA in 1953. By their delivery, regular passenger trains with the exception of the Belen-El Paso trains were dieselized and these units worked most of their miles in freight service, supplementing the 200-class F-7 freight locomotives." My point would be you can bank on what Stagner wrote. What are you reading? Indian red warbonnet F7s of the 325 Class started hauling freight in 1953-54.
Later into the mid 1960s as passenger train miles dropped off and new passenger power was delivered more and more passenger F units began to haul freight. In my post above it was noted that the U28CGs, U30CGs and FP45s were used on the Super C, the fastest freight train starting in the late 1960s. The U28CGs and U30CGs were permanently removed from passenger service following the wreck of #24 on February 9, 1969 near Chillicothe, Illinois. Check out Joe McMillan's Route of the Warbonnets for some great photos of red warbonnets in freight service.
spikejones52002 wrote: When A.T.& S.F had passenger service. The red indian warbonnet was exclusively passenger engines.The blue and yellow was never in the warbonnet design. I dare to say that even now Blue and yellow was never in the warbonnet design. Long after passenger service A.T. & S.F. painted their freight engines in both paint schemes
When A.T.& S.F had passenger service.
The red indian warbonnet was exclusively passenger engines.
The blue and yellow was never in the warbonnet design. I dare to say that even now Blue and yellow was never in the warbonnet design. Long after passenger service A.T. & S.F. painted their freight engines in both paint schemes
IRONHORSE77 wrote:Warbonnet refers to the design not the color.Chuck
I'm pretty sure this is not true.
Warbonnet, when refering to the Santa Fe, in the absence of any other distinction refers to the Red and Silver.
as for when Santa Fe started using Passenger units for freight... Again, the point is that it wasn't a freight scheme.
I fully acknowledge that it happened.
From Stan Repp's The Super Chief . . . Train of the Stars page 83, "Dipping a no. 7 brush into puddle of his butcher-pan palette, Knickerbocker rendered the nose of that automobile-like shape, actually the hood of Super-2's own Diesel. The crimson hood had replaced the air-scoop cowls or "eyebrows" of 1 and 1-A and a narrow band of the red color ran the length of both units at floor height suggesting, as Knickerbocker said, "the profile of an Indian head and the trailing feathers of a war bonnet."
Judges we await your decision, was EMC stylist Leland Knickerbocker speaking of design or color or both.
YoHo1975 wrote: IRONHORSE77 wrote: Warbonnet refers to the design not the color.Chuck I'm pretty sure this is not true.Warbonnet, when refering to the Santa Fe, in the absence of any other distinction refers to the Red and Silver.as for when Santa Fe started using Passenger units for freight... Again, the point is that it wasn't a freight scheme. I fully acknowledge that it happened.
IRONHORSE77 wrote: Warbonnet refers to the design not the color.Chuck
Hey, SSW9389, don't be such a nit-picker!
Certainly, the original, classical design was both color and profile. Santa Fe management recognised how popular the design had become and obviously decided to carry over the warbonnet theme into their freight blue-and-yellow color scheme! Just look at the photo on the link at the start of this thread! Do you really think that the yellow curve is just arbitrary? It is so obviously Santa Fe Warbonnet, even if a different color scheme!
Wyonate wrote:Myself, I wonder what a vise-versa of the orange and black would look like. Domonate black with BNSF and handrails in orange. lol, just tried to picture it in my mind.
It would look like the IHB, see their SD20's, GP38-2's (3801-3802) and older pictures of the SW1500's before they were rebuilt.
Are you sure on that statement?
spikejones52002 wrote:I guess a girl in a Mini-Skirt walked by when he was painting the first "a".
you'll notice that a is not the original....the right hand door (of the two covered by the a) is swiped from another yellowbonnet loco...they figured it's a close enough fit to pass...
-Tim
http://www.locophotos.com/PhotoDetails.php?PhotoID=83158
What's wrong with the Scheme of the locomotive? Do you rather have the Warbonet style?
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