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Posted by Ulrich on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:16 PM
Good points also..thanks.
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Posted by n012944 on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:13 PM
 Ulrich wrote:

That's true..so what's changed besides a bit more horsepower? 30 years ago some railroads like coal hauler Chessie and mountain road Western Pacific preferred the four motor units over their six motor cousins. In fact WP never rostered a six motor.

 Today freight trains are generally shorter than they were 30 years ago..With today's emphasis on FASTER, more frequent, scheduled service one could argue a four motor locomotive is better suited.      

 

Well trains might be shorter than 30 years ago(not sure about that one) but they are MUCH heaver that they were 30 years ago.  That is a great argument for six axles.  One other thing that has not been metioned is flexablity, a six axle can pull a van train tonight, then a grain train the next day, and a coal train the following day. A four axle can not do that.

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Posted by Ulrich on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:04 PM
Great answer...thanks for the detailed reply.
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Posted by nbrodar on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:51 PM

High horsepower 4 axles are notoriously slippery - the wheel slip and spin without going anywhere, before the full horsepower is used.  There's also a limit on the amount of weight you can put on the drivers, which limits the size of a 4 axle.  Santa Fe's GP60M's pretty much maxed out what a 4 axle can practically weigh.  The only way SF could add the wide cabs was to sacrifice fuel.

6 axles spread the weight over more drivers, which means they can weigh more. Alot of which is fuel.  A modern ES44 or SD70 holds 5000 or more gallons of fuel, compared with about 3000 in most 4 axles. That give them greater range.  Weight, among other things, give them more tractive effort.   Here's an example from the tonnage graph for my sub division:

GP40-2: 3000 tons
SD40-2: 4600 tons

That may not seem like a big difference, but 1600 tons is 16 loaded cars, or 30 to 35 empty ones. 

The REAL reason 4 axles where prefered was that they were easier on the track at speed.  Current steerable truck technology, eliminates this advantage.

And from a crew standpoint, 6 axles ride better.   Riding a GP60 or B40 is like riding an out of balance washing machine.

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Posted by Ulrich on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:43 PM

That's true..so what's changed besides a bit more horsepower? 30 years ago some railroads like coal hauler Chessie and mountain road Western Pacific preferred the four motor units over their six motor cousins. In fact WP never rostered a six motor.

 Today freight trains are generally shorter than they were 30 years ago..With today's emphasis on FASTER, more frequent, scheduled service one could argue a four motor locomotive is better suited.      

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Posted by bakupolo on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:30 PM
50% more traction? All the power in the world won't do nothin if ya can't download it to the rails.
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Four axle locomotives...
Posted by Ulrich on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 12:36 PM
Why do railroads today favor six axle power over four axle? According to what I've read four axle power has distinct advantages...lighter weight, less horsepower wasted on traction motor blowers,  lower maintanence due to fewer traction motors and associated components, and I'm guessing lower cost too.  So what gives? Why have the railroads apparently shunned new four axle power?

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