AlCO PA's

[scottychaos]

Are the two ex-Rio Grande PB-1s that were converted to steam generator cars gone? Thanks for any reply.

 

I think one is..but I cant seem to locate it on-line..

Its not really much a PB anymore though..the carbody has been heavily modified, engine is gone, and its riding on EMD GP trucks! :( (original Alco trucks are long gone)

so its sort-of a PB, but not really..in the same manner a CF7 isnt really a F7 anymore.

Scot 

[SSW9389]

Are the two ex-Rio Grande PB-1s that were converted to steam generator cars gone? Thanks for any reply.

[scottychaos]

There are SIX survivng Alco PA's in the world.

the D&H foursome, which were all originally Santa Fe, and two units in Brazil, that were never owned by a US railroad..

D&H 16 - in Oregon, owned by the Smithsonian, planned to be cosmitcally restored its original Santa Fe warbonnet scheme and put on display somewhere.

D&H 17 - In a museum in Mexico: http://www.mexlist.com/photo/benson/dh17.htm

D&H 18 - in Oregon, being restord in NKP colors. will soon be the world's only operating Alco PA: http://www.nkp190.com/ (it was not originally a NKP engine, it was Santa Fe and D&H)

D&H 19 - In a museum in Mexico: http://www.mexlist.com/photo/benson/dh19.htm

The other two are in Brazil, and were always Brazillian units. they are wide-gauge, built to 1600 mm gauge (5' 3") 

http://alcoworld.railfan.net/pauli.htm

There were once three PA's of this Brazil order, two survive.

One has been cosmetically restored: http://alcoworld.railfan.net/cp600.htm

Scot

 

 

[YoHo1975]

One of the 2 PAs in Portland is in much much better condition now.

 

[ns horsehead]

http://shastaroute.railfan.net/PA.html here is some of the pictures from there trip to portland.

[J. Edgar]

 

 well now im all confused........the wikipedia link says the units are broadgauge....5'3"......the Dieselshop link says narrow......

thx for the Dieselshop link...thats a new one for me

[SSW9389]

There is a better PA roster here http://www.thedieselshop.us/AlcoPA.HTML that gives the builders numbers, road numbers and dates etc. You can also see  http://www.thedieselshop.us/PRSVDalcoCC.HTML#CABS for some preservation news on the remaining PAs. The two in Mexico are in a museum. One is is Espee Daylight colors. Thanks to R. Craig Rutherford for his dieselshop webpage.

Ed 

 

[SSW9389]

There were three PA-2 units exported to Brazil. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALCO_PA for a bit more info, I do apologize for the roster on that page not being accurate as it was done by someone who does not know how to count. The demonstrators are listed as seperate units and then again under the roads that purchased them. Also the P&LE and SSW units were combined with their larger owning roads.

Ed

 

thx....the Brazilian units....know their heritage?.....are they used?...

[J. Edgar]

thx....the Brazilian units....know their heritage?.....are they used?...

[SSW9389]

The two PA-1s in Mexico are both stuffed and mounted. The two PA-1s that Doyle McCormack repatriated to the US are in Portland, Oregon for restoration. The two surviving PA-2s are in Brazil.

[J. Edgar]

 i recall the surviving PA's were being redone in Mexico....granted a few years ago i think....anybody have info on condition? are they running?