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Warbonnets when they were new
Posted by CAZEPHYR on Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:47 PM

I liked the Santa Fe red and silver and thought a few pictures for old time sake would be nice.

 SF 951 at the east end of Woodford CA.

Santa Fe 231 at Woodford siding.

Woodford meet.

Santa Fe 840 southbound near Mojave, CA.

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 Santa Fe 515 at Caliente.

 

 

 

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Posted by selector on Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:33 PM

I'm not big on diesels, CZ, or haven't been (more accurately), but I must say I like the paint on these units.   Who knows, I may just have to model those.......Cool

Nice images!  Thumbs Up

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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Friday, March 13, 2009 10:44 AM

selector

I'm not big on diesels, CZ, or haven't been (more accurately), but I must say I like the paint on these units.   Who knows, I may just have to model those.......Cool

Nice images!  Thumbs Up

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Thanks.   The red and silver was very attractive and gave Santa Fe immediate recognition.  When they announced the return of the Warbonnet paint in 1990, they painted the FP45's back into the Warbonnet colors and ordered new diesels with the red and silver scheme.  A new era for the Santa Fe began that lasted six years until the merger with BN.  I took pictures of one of the 600 class yesterday still in Warbonnet, but very faded.  There are a few still out there.  The Warbonnet paint scheme is the reason I started taking pictures of railroads again in 1990.  Except for steam excursions, I had lost interest in the general day to day railroad operations and the return of the old colors really got me interested in watching and shooting pictures again. 

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Posted by bubbajustin on Friday, March 13, 2009 5:27 PM

The warbonnet is, I think, is the most classic memorable scheems in history. By far my favorite by far! Like the -8's I think right? Nice shots my friend. Also like the F45's.

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Posted by oltmannd on Friday, March 13, 2009 8:55 PM

Nice!

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Posted by Kootenay Central on Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:06 PM

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Posted by CAZEPHYR on Monday, March 16, 2009 8:17 AM

 

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Too bad one of the extant PAs was not painted this way once again, and out haulling excursions.

The PAs looked good painted D&H, as did the Sharks.

I was surprised that Doyle's PA being restored was painted in the NKP scheme, but it is his PA and he can do whatever he wants with it.   Does anyone know if the other unit will be done in Santa Fe.  There are two units and the other unit will be restored for a Museum if I remember correctly.

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Posted by CopCarSS on Monday, March 16, 2009 3:09 PM

Nice shots! I wish BNSF would have stuck with the Warbonnet. Fortunately, there are still some of these running around. Some are faded pretty awfully, but I managed to catch this still good looking unit leading on Saturday:

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Monday, March 16, 2009 6:57 PM

I like the BNSF scheme well enough, but I know thw Warbonnet was considered the classic railroad scheme.  I hope some will still be around awhile, I have seen pictures of them really faded.  At that point repainting them into either scheme would be the merciful thing to do.

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Posted by trainnut57 on Monday, March 16, 2009 9:30 PM

SoapBox In my youth and now in my retirement, I live just a few short miles from the Erie (PA) GE Plant where alot of the Warbonnets were built. To see several of them lined up on the ready track in brand new paint was a sight to see. Too bad my youthful side didn't think to take some pictures. The same site is still visible today from the Franklin Ave. bridge, but with these tough times, it's hard to catch a new anything there, let alone a whole string of them.

Ahh, for the "good ol' days" ??!!??

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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:53 PM

The 98,visible in one photo,Is preserved at the Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris,CA. This engine is operable and is run on special occasions.

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Posted by Sunnyland on Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:53 PM

Some good looking photos.  But I have to admit when I see BNSF, I always thing of the SF as part of the Frisco name-SLSF.  But that's just me, because of my family history with the old Frisco.

With BN, nothing brought Frisco to mind, but BNSF does.  I apologize to any Santa Fe fans or

employees, but again I said that's just me.  Frisco will always live in my heart.

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Posted by bubbajustin on Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:09 PM

Sunnyland

Some good looking photos.  But I have to admit when I see BNSF, I always thing of the SF as part of the Frisco name-SLSF.  But that's just me, because of my family history with the old Frisco.

With BN, nothing brought Frisco to mind, but BNSF does.  I apologize to any Santa Fe fans or

employees, but again I said that's just me.  Frisco will always live in my heart.

Hay, you should stick to youre guns. I look at the warbonnets and it brings to mind what the good ol' days would have been like.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Saturday, March 21, 2009 6:28 PM

The Frisco,as well as Santa Fe,had red and silver E units.The Frisco,s were not warbonnets of course,but the Frisco Es looked great.AIRC,the Frisco had fluting on the silver sides of thier Es.

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Posted by bubbajustin on Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:25 PM

I also liked the Frisco's GP15-1's. Theay looked nice.

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:38 PM

The only way to see the Santa Fe Warbonnet scheme looking new is on a highly detailed scale model.

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Posted by Awesome! on Sunday, April 5, 2009 10:24 PM

They should bring back the old colors and the name!Headphones

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, April 6, 2009 7:58 AM

Awesome!

They should bring back the old colors and the name!Headphones

Except for the name, Pacific Harbor Line runs its power in the old ATSF colors!

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Posted by JCRQ on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 8:00 AM
Isn't BNSF pretty much Keeping the WarBonnet Heritage alive the only thingis it's changing the label over to BNSF instead of Santa Fe. cuz u still do see warbonnets. Atleast they're still around. a month ago i was up in sand patch camping and a Warbonnet was on the lead with a shiny new Paint scheme but it just had BNSF instead.
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Posted by bubbajustin on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 5:10 PM

JCRQ
Isn't BNSF pretty much Keeping the WarBonnet Heritage alive the only thingis it's changing the label over to BNSF instead of Santa Fe. cuz u still do see warbonnets. Atleast they're still around. a month ago i was up in sand patch camping and a Warbonnet was on the lead with a shiny new Paint scheme but it just had BNSF instead.

 

I don't think so as far as I know.

As far as i've heared thay are re-painting them all into pumpkins. Too bad though.

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Posted by JCRQ on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:54 PM
oh really that sucks. i hope not becuz then all our railroads will become standardized and be boring. i think railroads should keep a heritage scheme sorta like what UP's doing with the fallen flags schemes. but it would be a shame to see the warbonnet go.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:11 AM

As far as I'm concerned, railroads and railroading will never get boring.  Although the number of major roads has shrunk dramatically, run-through and lease power, new types of locomotive and cars and various other changes will always keep things interesting.

As I said in an earlier post, the warbonnets may disappear but Santa Fe colors will continue.

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Posted by fecsd40-2 on Monday, April 20, 2009 3:40 PM

Awesome is absolutely right!!!  Locos in the warbonnet as well as the Grinstein colors were delivered after the merger, hence invalidating the argument that they dropped them in order to stop SF and BN employee rivalry from developing.  These two roads were friendly connections and long time allies, not rivals. Krebs is the person who picked the orange shemes and implemented them without any cost savings.  It would at least help to have a name and not a collection of consonants like Eastern connection CSX, who should just change its name to Chessie System.  It would be great if BNSF changes its name to Santa Fe as well, then all of the class ones would have simple and easy to remember names. 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:22 AM

The thought behind multiple liveries at BNSF was as follows:  Warbonnets would work intermodal, Grinstein Green would handle coal and mineral freight, and Heritage would be for everything else.  Realistically, engine house foremen are not going to dispatch motive power based on paint jobs, and it would not have been long before some really hideous lash-ups would turn up on the point of a Z-train.  What sounded good on paper was impractical in practice so the Heritage colors became standard.  Besides, the current paint used on ATSF's last warbonnets faded badly and it wasn't long before a vibrant red became a pale pink.  I still think that PHL did a nice job in using Santa Fe colors for its current fleet.

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