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News Wire: Rail groups' charter cut short by derailment

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Sunday, May 12, 2019 11:01 AM
HEBER CITY, Utah — A special train carrying hundreds of railfans attending four historical society conventions in the Salt Lake City area had one of the shortest excursions ever when the Heber Valley Railroad train derailed Saturday as it left ...

http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/05/12-rail-groups-charter-cut-short-by-derailment 

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Sunday, May 12, 2019 5:32 PM

Every RR museums nighmare. Thank goodness no injuries.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, May 13, 2019 10:20 PM

I was on the train.  It was a slow speed derailment since we were still in yard limits.  Hate to think what might have happened if we were in the canyon on a downward grade.

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, May 13, 2019 11:07 PM

Thats amazing you were there. Do you know the cause? Have you heard anything? 

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 12:18 PM

Miningman
Thats amazing you were there. Do you know the cause? Have you heard anything? 

With my 20/20 eyesight from 2K miles away - sounds like poor tie condition that permitted rail to turn over and lose gauge integrity.  This is the cause of the vast majority of low speed derailment.  The ties can't hold the spikes and the side thrust that happens at the wheel/rail interface is sufficient to turn the rail and the spikes can't hold it down on the tie plate.  This doesn't happen where only a single tie is bad, but where a consecutive number of ties are bad there isn't enough spike resistance to keep the rail upright.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 9:23 PM

The story I got from a NRHS charter train official who was on the ground, was that it might have been that the engine (trailing truck?) picked the derail switch point as it left the yard.  A fan who had the cab ride said the engine was jumping pretty good.  At first they brought in a couple of front end loaders to put it back on track, but apparently that didn't work out.  After 2 hours they annuled the train.  I heard yesterday while we were still in Salt Lake City, thet Heber Valley cancelled all this week's trains.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:49 PM

In addition to track repairs, if the locomotive dropped down hard and dragged on the rail or ground it likely sustained traction motor damage.

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