Most of my RS2/3's came in maroon, gray and yellow with a few others tossed in. They handled local service on EL, transfers and commuters on RI, and general service on Monon (including the "Thoroughbred").
Most interesting were the re-powered RS2/3's on Rock Island (RI 450-454 and 456). They lasted until the demise of the Rock in 1980.
kgbw49 Here are a few other ALCO locomotives on the Southern... RS-3 2031 - looks right out of the shop... RS-3 2141 on what looks to be helper service on a Southern passenger train as the cab road units are behind the first three hood units... RS-3 in Macon GA with a Central of Georgia number... RS-3 156... Not an ALCO, but too good to pass up - the Pelican handoff from an N&W J at Bristol TN-VA... RS-3 2025... RS-3 2060 in Atlanta... RS-3 2132... RS-3 39... RS-3 2061 at Charlotte NC... RS-3 2058 leading mail and express Train 21 at Springfield VA... RS-3 36...
Here are a few other ALCO locomotives on the Southern...
RS-3 2031 - looks right out of the shop...
RS-3 2141 on what looks to be helper service on a Southern passenger train as the cab road units are behind the first three hood units...
RS-3 in Macon GA with a Central of Georgia number...
RS-3 156...
Not an ALCO, but too good to pass up - the Pelican handoff from an N&W J at Bristol TN-VA...
RS-3 2025...
RS-3 2060 in Atlanta...
RS-3 2132...
RS-3 39...
RS-3 2061 at Charlotte NC...
RS-3 2058 leading mail and express Train 21 at Springfield VA...
RS-3 36...
Notice the line of head-end cars--storage mail, RPO, express.
Johnny
You know, the ALCO RS-3's were considered by some to be ugly locomotives, but I kinda like the look of 'em. Can't tell you why. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
Champlain Division "ALCo" was the "American Locomotive Company". "ALCoa" is an aluminum manufacturing company (Aluminum Company of America, iinm). So, the proper plural of "ALCo" is "ALCos" Blue Streak gets a Blue Smudge on this one. ;)
"ALCo" was the "American Locomotive Company". "ALCoa" is an aluminum manufacturing company (Aluminum Company of America, iinm). So, the proper plural of "ALCo" is "ALCos" Blue Streak gets a Blue Smudge on this one. ;)
Blackcloud 5229 vbeach Last I saw, there are FA units operating on the Grand Canyon Railway and the Wine Train in Napa. I think some other tourist trains may also be running them. The Grand Canyon Railway operates ex Canadian National Alco FPA-4 locomotives equipped with an Alco 251 V-12. Last I knew they were running on Propine instead of diese. The FPA as the passenger equipped version of the freight only version the FA FB. The Alco 251 engine was the engine that replaced the 244 and is still in production to this day. Fairbanks Morse purchased the right tools and dies for it and can make any part required just have a deep pocketbook. Many ships, power plants still use the Alco 251 today as do a number of short lines Alco diese locomotives have always had a good reputation as a puller and a very economical locomotive with a slightly higher maintenance program required.
vbeach Last I saw, there are FA units operating on the Grand Canyon Railway and the Wine Train in Napa. I think some other tourist trains may also be running them.
The Grand Canyon Railway operates ex Canadian National Alco FPA-4 locomotives equipped with an Alco 251 V-12. Last I knew they were running on Propine instead of diese. The FPA as the passenger equipped version of the freight only version the FA FB.
The Alco 251 engine was the engine that replaced the 244 and is still in production to this day. Fairbanks Morse purchased the right tools and dies for it and can make any part required just have a deep pocketbook. Many ships, power plants still use the Alco 251 today as do a number of short lines Alco diese locomotives have always had a good reputation as a puller and a very economical locomotive with a slightly higher maintenance program required.
vbeachLast I saw, there are FA units operating on the Grand Canyon Railway and the Wine Train in Napa. I think some other tourist trains may also be running them.
Thanks!
I never knew this specific type of car ever existed. I guess I wasn't paying attention.
AnthonyVIn the third picture, what type of car is the first car behind the locomotives?
It's a rebuilt heavyweight passenger car. With mail containers on it. See the El Capitan picture, which shows two of them
Here's one without containers, showing the truck detail a bit better:
...And yes, if you want a model, although your dealer might not be able to get it from Walthers, they were made...
They were seen at times on the NYC going thru Albion, MI on the Det-Chi line.
Karl Scribner
Sunfield Twp. Michigan
Kentucky Southern Railway
SD70M-2Dude RME thomas81z ok you guys are killing me now i am going on to evilbay to find ABBA HO PA's There were railroads that ran ABBA sets of PAs? Erie-builts: yes, KCS, for a while. But that was different... and it didn't last. It seems Santa Fe did, at least on occasion: http://railpictures.net/photo/390805/ http://railpictures.net/photo/390802/ Almost, but just as impressive: http://railpictures.net/photo/392180/
RME thomas81z ok you guys are killing me now i am going on to evilbay to find ABBA HO PA's There were railroads that ran ABBA sets of PAs? Erie-builts: yes, KCS, for a while. But that was different... and it didn't last.
thomas81z ok you guys are killing me now i am going on to evilbay to find ABBA HO PA's
There were railroads that ran ABBA sets of PAs?
Erie-builts: yes, KCS, for a while. But that was different... and it didn't last.
It seems Santa Fe did, at least on occasion:
http://railpictures.net/photo/390805/
http://railpictures.net/photo/390802/
Almost, but just as impressive:
http://railpictures.net/photo/392180/
Great photos!
In the third picture, what type of car is the first car behind the locomotives?
A few more Santa Fe PA photos:
A-A-B-A over Raton Pass...
A-B-A with RSD5 Helpers over Raton Pass...
A-A-B-B at Kansas City Union Station...
A-B-A in Chicago Dearborn Station fresh off the showroom floor...
A-B-B-A at Merced, CA...
A-A notching out of the Big Windy in wintertime...
A-B-B-A at Streator, IL...
BaltACD Notice the 56 is the leader in all the shots. With silver overspray along the top of the pilot.
Notice the 56 is the leader in all the shots. With silver overspray along the top of the pilot.
Upon closer inspection the first 2 photos were taken the same day at Clovis, NM, with the 3rd a few months later. In the comments on one the photographer remarks that the A-B-B-A set was replacing an A-B-B-B (!!!!) set that had brought the train in, but unfortunately he hasn't posted a photo of them.
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Yep, that counts. Thanks for finding those shots!
thomas81zok you guys are killing me now i am going on to evilbay to find ABBA HO PA's
ok you guys are killing me now i am going on to evilbay to find a ABBA ho PA's
Three of the Wabash PA's were still on the roster on October 16, 1964 and were actually assigned N&W numbers. Unfortunately, they were retired and sold for scrap before that actually occurred.
Only 3 or 4 of Wabash's E8A's were relettered and repainted in N&W colors.
Wabash's PAs worked both the Cannonball and the Detroit Limited/St. Louis Limited into Detroit.
NYC had a small fleet of PA/PB's, they may have worked into Detroit on a now-and-again basis.
Dr. D: Later when I graduated from highschool in 1968, dad took me on a cross country rail journey and on the return trip we rode the Santa Fe Super Chief from Los Angeles to Chicago. Gone were the EMD "F" unit power - replaced with another new generation of six axle GM EMD FP 45 box cab passenger units of around 3600 horsepower each - and not nearly as beautiful as the Alco "PA" and EMD "F's".
On a Christmas trip in Dec. 1967 to California on the combined Super Chief/El Capitan, 22 cars. I think we had 5 F-units on the point leaving Chicago. On the return trip in Albuquerque, NM they pulled 7 F-units off and put 2 brand new FP45's on for the trip to Chicago, masive engines compared to the F's. Dr. D' - what part of Flint and when. Moved there in Aug. 1959 - moved away in early 1998. Bob
Here are a few for Dr. D...
Raton Pass...
Lots of head end varnish - the Fast Mail perhaps?
Honorary steam locomotive...
Notching out for California...
Dr D ... 3 of those turbocharged PA 16 cylinder 2,250 hp engines in A-B-A lashup ...
When did ATSF have PA-2s?
BTW: in case anyone didn't know, here is something worth following if you do Facebook, or knowing about if you don't. (Even with a MLW 12-251, it'll be worthwhile; start agitating NOW to get the B-unit off the old Algoma Central...)
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