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Baldwin 0-4-4t photo, please help

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Baldwin 0-4-4t photo, please help
Posted by KenSetz on Saturday, January 2, 2010 4:17 PM

 Hi everyone,

I am desperately looking for photos of the Baldwin Forney 0-4-4t locos used by the NYC elevated trains in the late 1800s. Any ideas of where to search (Google images didn't yield much)?

 

Thank you

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Posted by Beach Bill on Saturday, January 2, 2010 6:46 PM

Fred Westing's book The Locomotives That Baldwin Built has a right side photo of an 1893 0-4-4 built for the South Side Rapid Transit (Chicago).     I seem to recall that there was a book by the title of When the Steam Railroads Electrified which would also be a potential resource, but I do not have a copy. 

Not all of the NYC 0-4-4s were from Baldwin.  I know that Brooks made a large number of them in the 1880s, and it was a Brooks locomotive that was modeled in brass in HO scale and imported by MTS.   MTS is still in business (they mostly produce transit models) and perhaps they could be of assistance in finding the plans.  The owner/importer of MTS has often attended model train shows in the Baltimore area himself and always seemed willing to chat.  (Don't know if you have a specific need for a Baldwin; my sense is that most of these elevated 0-4-4s were built to the same dimensions by several different manufacturers.)

Bill

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Posted by JamesP on Saturday, January 2, 2010 8:33 PM

There is a picture from the side of a 0-4-4 toward the bottom of this page: http://www.midcontinent.org/rollingstock/CandS/dsp-passenger/nyelrail2.htm

Also, take a look at Page 1 of that site for some 3/4 pictures of elevated Forneys.

Another view of a Forney 0-4-4 at the Forney Museum: http://www.forneymuseum.org/FE_Forney_Locomotive.html

Of course, here are a couple of pictures of the 0-4-4 at the St. Louis Museum of Transportation.  If it is within driving distance, you can see it in person: http://www.transportmuseumassociation.org/lakestelevated9.html

Hope this helps!

 - James

 

 

 

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Posted by nwo4rf on Monday, January 4, 2010 9:47 AM

I seem to remember that BlackHawk Films had an 8mm movie of these locomotives in action. It was black and white silent. You might do a surch on that I am not shure if they are still in business. IF they are they might have converted it to vidieo by now. IF noe you might find it in sombodies library.

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Posted by KenSetz on Monday, January 4, 2010 5:31 PM

Thanks to you all! These are great sources I'll investigate. I'm doing this to get info on the Council City and Solomon River RR outside Nome, Alaska.

 

Thanks again

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