24 Hours on the Joint NS - BNSF East of KC

[t.winx]

I got some extra time, so here you guys go.. Please let me know if you find this stuff interesting.

This count started on Friday, August 31st 2007 in the town of Norborne MO. I headed over to WB junction just west of Carrollton around 3 because EB's were backing up for some reason. I spent the night in Norborne. This area, between Norborne and Carrollton is definetely my favorite spot to railfan - so much variety and speed and not too many dull times! MO highway 10 parallels the tracks between the two towns for those who like to pace em.

1. 8:22am WB NS Auto
2. 8:57 EB Southwest Chief
3. 9:09 EB SF Stack mix
4. 9:24 EB SF Stack mostly i/e with a few domestic
5. 9:43 EB NS Autos/parts/freight
6. 10:20 WB SF Pig 95 trailers No UPS WSPSTO?
7. 10:52 EB SF Pig 41 e
8. 11:04 EB UP Stack pacer/emp
9. 11:09 WB SF Tank admx
10. 11:18 EB SF Auto
11. 11:19 WB NS Auto
12. 11:21 WB NS A. Parts/stack
13. 12:00pm WB SF Pig 25 mostly UPS
14. 1:31 EB NS Auto
15. 1:44 EB SF Freight
16. 1:59 EB UP Stack pacer/emp lots csx
17. 2:15 EB SF Grain adm
18. 2:33 EB SF Grain ATW/AOK
19. 2:58 WB SF Freight big (I arrive at WB Junction)
20. 3:20 WB SF Freight lots grain
21. 3:29 WB SF Stack i/e mostly maersk and hyundai
22. 3:45 WB NS Stack/freight
23. 4:03 WB NS Freight
24. 4:12 WB NS Local
25. 4:18 EB SF Stack domestic
26. 4:27 EB UP Stack pacer/emp 2 pigs
27. 4:42 EB NS A. Parts
28. 4:56 EB SF Stack i/e mix
29. 5:11 EB SF Auto/stack ie mix
30. 5:16 WB UP Stack i/e mix a few domestic
31. 5:31 WB UP Auto
32. 5:40 WB SF Stack mix
33. 6:11 WB SF Pig 132 trailers no UPS (70 per! check out the 4th link below!!)
34. 6:22 WB UP Stack ie mix
35. 6:33 EB SF Grain
36. 6:47 EB SF Grain
37. 6:53 WB SF Tank
38. 7:00 EB NS Auto
39. 7:09 EB NS Freight
40. 7:16 EB NS Auto
41. 7:30 EB NS Auto
42. 7:49 EB SF Stack i/e and a few autos
43. 7:52 WB SF Pig 100++ e
44. 8:01 EB SF Stack ie mix
45. 8:13 EB SF Stack mix
46. 8:25 WB NS triple crown 84 trailers
47. 8:31 EB SF Stack i/e mix mostly maersk and ponl
48. 8:47 WB UP Auto
49. 9:16 EB NS triple crown 140
50. 9:30 EB SF Pig 50ish
51. 9:30 WB SF Pig 70ish no UPS?? SBD2?
52. 9:43 EB SF Stack hanjin
53. 9:51 WB Southwest Chief (leave WB junction heading west for Norborne)
54. 9:54 EB UP Stack apl
55. 9:59 EB SF Stack i/e mix (grab some Caseys PizzA and pepsi!)
56. 10:10 EB NS Stack
57. 10:27 EB SF Pig 111 no UPS
58. 11:03 EB NS Stack mostly emp
59. 11:04 WB SF Pig 79 e
60. 11:16 WB NS A. Parts
61. 11:21 EB SF Pig 45 no UPS
62. 11:39 EB SF Pig 119 e
63. 11:52 EB SF Stack i/e mix mostly yang ming
64. 11:52 WB SF Auto
65. 12:15am EB SF Freight
66. 12:17 WB UP Stack pacer/emp
67. 12:28 WB UP Auto
68. 12:40 EB NS Freight
69. 12:58 WB SF Stack i/e mix lots china shipping
70. 1:58 WB SF Pig 140 mostly UPS WSPLAC
71. 2:12 WB SF Stack mix
72. 2:39 WB NS triple crown 140
73. 2:39 EB NS Freight
74. 2:45 WB SF Stack mostly i/e some domestic
75. 3:50 EB SF Stack domestic
76. 4:15 WB NS Stack
77. 4:37 EB SF Pig 67 e
78. 4:38 WB SF Pig 88 e WSPALT?
79. 4:47 EB SF Freight
80. 4:50 WB UP Stack mostly csx
81. 5:03 WB NS Freight
82. 5:03 EB SF Pig 142 mostly UPS, some ltl either LAC or NBY
83. 5:16 WB NS Autos/parts
84. 5:17 EB SF Flats
85. 5:28 EB UP Stack apl
86. 5:31 WB SF Auto
87. 5:45 WB NS triple crown
88. 5:49 EB SF Stack hyundai
89. 5:57 WB NS Stack
90. 6:03 EB SF Pig 55 e mostly UPS
91. 6:17 EB UP Stack ie mix
92. 6:45 EB SF Stack ie mix
93. 6:47 WB SF Pig 100+ lots ltl no UPS
94. 7:10 WB SF Stack domestic
95. 8:08 EB SF Pig 130 e
96. 8:21 EB SF Stack ie mix
97. 8:27 WB SF Pig 110 mostly UPS
98. 8:37 EB SF Auto  (I then left for Princeville IL for one more 24 hour count)

Technically only 96 but I assume that the 8:27 pig was probably just running a little late so I count it. Anyway, thats 56 BNSF, 26 NS, 13 UP and 2 Amtrak. I predicted reaching 100, but that'll have to wait for next year. I love the extra UP's!

I highly recommend you visit this spot! The curve at WB Junction is incredible! If you want some video from the area you can check out these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV07tZ95iL4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LTIZG7PsJk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jn8mVwsAzU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXVRDNoIgW0

Thanks for reading and please let me know what you think!

[spbed]

This area sounds exactly like the situation at Daggett CA except there it is only UPRR & BNSF but on the hand there you also get all the BNSF gulf traffic which cuts off the transcon at Texico NM  

 

 

I got some extra time, so here you guys go.. Please let me know if you find this stuff interesting.

This count started on Friday, August 31st 2007 in the town of Norborne MO. I headed over to WB junction just west of Carrollton around 3 because EB's were backing up for some reason. I spent the night in Norborne. This area, between Norborne and Carrollton is definetely my favorite spot to railfan - so much variety and speed and not too many dull times! MO highway 10 parallels the tracks between the two towns for those who like to pace em.

1. 8:22am WB NS Auto
2. 8:57 EB Southwest Chief
3. 9:09 EB SF Stack mix
4. 9:24 EB SF Stack mostly i/e with a few domestic
5. 9:43 EB NS Autos/parts/freight
6. 10:20 WB SF Pig 95 trailers No UPS WSPSTO?
7. 10:52 EB SF Pig 41 e
8. 11:04 EB UP Stack pacer/emp
9. 11:09 WB SF Tank admx
10. 11:18 EB SF Auto
11. 11:19 WB NS Auto
12. 11:21 WB NS A. Parts/stack
13. 12:00pm WB SF Pig 25 mostly UPS
14. 1:31 EB NS Auto
15. 1:44 EB SF Freight
16. 1:59 EB UP Stack pacer/emp lots csx
17. 2:15 EB SF Grain adm
18. 2:33 EB SF Grain ATW/AOK
19. 2:58 WB SF Freight big (I arrive at WB Junction)
20. 3:20 WB SF Freight lots grain
21. 3:29 WB SF Stack i/e mostly maersk and hyundai
22. 3:45 WB NS Stack/freight
23. 4:03 WB NS Freight
24. 4:12 WB NS Local
25. 4:18 EB SF Stack domestic
26. 4:27 EB UP Stack pacer/emp 2 pigs
27. 4:42 EB NS A. Parts
28. 4:56 EB SF Stack i/e mix
29. 5:11 EB SF Auto/stack ie mix
30. 5:16 WB UP Stack i/e mix a few domestic
31. 5:31 WB UP Auto
32. 5:40 WB SF Stack mix
33. 6:11 WB SF Pig 132 trailers no UPS (70 per! check out the 4th link below!!)
34. 6:22 WB UP Stack ie mix
35. 6:33 EB SF Grain
36. 6:47 EB SF Grain
37. 6:53 WB SF Tank
38. 7:00 EB NS Auto
39. 7:09 EB NS Freight
40. 7:16 EB NS Auto
41. 7:30 EB NS Auto
42. 7:49 EB SF Stack i/e and a few autos
43. 7:52 WB SF Pig 100++ e
44. 8:01 EB SF Stack ie mix
45. 8:13 EB SF Stack mix
46. 8:25 WB NS triple crown 84 trailers
47. 8:31 EB SF Stack i/e mix mostly maersk and ponl
48. 8:47 WB UP Auto
49. 9:16 EB NS triple crown 140
50. 9:30 EB SF Pig 50ish
51. 9:30 WB SF Pig 70ish no UPS?? SBD2?
52. 9:43 EB SF Stack hanjin
53. 9:51 WB Southwest Chief (leave WB junction heading west for Norborne)
54. 9:54 EB UP Stack apl
55. 9:59 EB SF Stack i/e mix (grab some Caseys PizzA and pepsi!)
56. 10:10 EB NS Stack
57. 10:27 EB SF Pig 111 no UPS
58. 11:03 EB NS Stack mostly emp
59. 11:04 WB SF Pig 79 e
60. 11:16 WB NS A. Parts
61. 11:21 EB SF Pig 45 no UPS
62. 11:39 EB SF Pig 119 e
63. 11:52 EB SF Stack i/e mix mostly yang ming
64. 11:52 WB SF Auto
65. 12:15am EB SF Freight
66. 12:17 WB UP Stack pacer/emp
67. 12:28 WB UP Auto
68. 12:40 EB NS Freight
69. 12:58 WB SF Stack i/e mix lots china shipping
70. 1:58 WB SF Pig 140 mostly UPS WSPLAC
71. 2:12 WB SF Stack mix
72. 2:39 WB NS triple crown 140
73. 2:39 EB NS Freight
74. 2:45 WB SF Stack mostly i/e some domestic
75. 3:50 EB SF Stack domestic
76. 4:15 WB NS Stack
77. 4:37 EB SF Pig 67 e
78. 4:38 WB SF Pig 88 e WSPALT?
79. 4:47 EB SF Freight
80. 4:50 WB UP Stack mostly csx
81. 5:03 WB NS Freight
82. 5:03 EB SF Pig 142 mostly UPS, some ltl either LAC or NBY
83. 5:16 WB NS Autos/parts
84. 5:17 EB SF Flats
85. 5:28 EB UP Stack apl
86. 5:31 WB SF Auto
87. 5:45 WB NS triple crown
88. 5:49 EB SF Stack hyundai
89. 5:57 WB NS Stack
90. 6:03 EB SF Pig 55 e mostly UPS
91. 6:17 EB UP Stack ie mix
92. 6:45 EB SF Stack ie mix
93. 6:47 WB SF Pig 100+ lots ltl no UPS
94. 7:10 WB SF Stack domestic
95. 8:08 EB SF Pig 130 e
96. 8:21 EB SF Stack ie mix
97. 8:27 WB SF Pig 110 mostly UPS
98. 8:37 EB SF Auto  (I then left for Princeville IL for one more 24 hour count)

Technically only 96 but I assume that the 8:27 pig was probably just running a little late so I count it. Anyway, thats 56 BNSF, 26 NS, 13 UP and 2 Amtrak. I predicted reaching 100, but that'll have to wait for next year. I love the extra UP's!

I highly recommend you visit this spot! The curve at WB Junction is incredible! If you want some video from the area you can check out these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV07tZ95iL4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LTIZG7PsJk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jn8mVwsAzU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXVRDNoIgW0

Thanks for reading and please let me know what you think!

[t.winx]

I would like to go to Dagget someday. For a college guy though, it costs a little too much to get there. Nebraska and KC is about all I can afford.

[Railfan1]

What a neat looking place. I would like to go there sometime.

[t.winx]

What a neat looking place. I would like to go there sometime.

There's not too many places where you can see combined mainline NS - BNSF action!! Add the UP trains and amtrak and we're getting pretty rare here!!

[spbed]

Well if U ever get to Vegas Daggett is only 2 hours from there. The same goes from LA BTW 

 

 

 

I would like to go to Dagget someday. For a college guy though, it costs a little too much to get there. Nebraska and KC is about all I can afford.

[CSXDixieLine]

Wow awesome! Can you provide more details on how to get to these spots? I will be in KC during the new year weekend and will definitely check this out. Hoping for some snow also! Thanks

BTW the videos are terrific also...subscribing to your vids on YouTube.

[t.winx]

Wow awesome! Can you provide more details on how to get to these spots? I will be in KC during the new year weekend and will definitely check this out. Hoping for some snow also! Thanks

BTW the videos are terrific also...subscribing to your vids on YouTube.

Thanks man!

Coming from KC this area is moderately difficult to get to. I like to follow the tracks as much as possible and that would make this tricky, so probably the most simple route consists of MO hwy 210 east to Richmond where you get on to hwy 10. Follow that through Hardin then starting at Norborne the road parallels the tracks. WB junction is about maybe 8 miles on the left. Cant miss it. There is a road that splits the junction and has very little traffic, and there is plenty of gravel area right beside the road to park.

If you want to stay in Norborne I would suggest parking on Oak st. which is much less busier than county D. To get there turn left from 10 onto 2nd st. and take that to oak where you'll turn right. Right past the first crossing pull into the gravel. Nobody should bother you here except the man who lives across the street that has lived there for 50 or so yrs. Interesting man he is. Overall this is probably an hour and a half from downtown KC.

I can't make it back here until next August. so have fun! and shoot some vids! Let me know how it goes.

[al-in-chgo]

This site sounds terrific! 

 

[CSXDixieLine]

Thanks for the directions! I am a Google Earth nerd so I should be able to find everything OK based on what you stated above. Will be in KC four days at the end of the year; if I make it there I will post tons of pics & vids...thanks again!

[Railfan1]

What a neat looking place. I would like to go there sometime.

There's not too many places where you can see combined mainline NS - BNSF action!! Add the UP trains and amtrak and we're getting pretty rare here!!

Weren't you questioned by anyone watching trains at 2:00a.m.?

[t.winx]

What a neat looking place. I would like to go there sometime.

There's not too many places where you can see combined mainline NS - BNSF action!! Add the UP trains and amtrak and we're getting pretty rare here!!

Weren't you questioned by anyone watching trains at 2:00a.m.?

Not this time, actually. I have been here before, a year earlier, and they questioned me about 9pm. He was nice, and is familiar with railfans so not a problem at all. Funny though, right when he parked his car to talk to me, the gates lowered for the Southwest Chief and the cop's tail end was on the tracks. He had to run back and move it up. Very amusing and odd that he would do such a thing.