FIRE!!!!!!!!

[locomutt]

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Today, Louisville Firefighters are putting the finishing touches on a 3 alarm
fire that roared through a lumber warehouse. Apparently, no one was in-
jured. Besides using water on the fire, they are using AFFF(foam) to douse
the hotspots. Main rail traffic on NS & CSX have been shut down for several
hours due to hose, etc. across rails.

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[John Liebson]

As a retired volunteer chief who was in the forefront of introducing class A foam to the structural fire service, I have to question the use of AFFF on class A ("ordinary combustibles") materials, given that AFFF is intended for class B ("flammable liquids") fires.

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by John Liebson

As a retired volunteer chief who was in the forefront of introducing class A foam to the structural fire service, I have to question the use of AFFF on class A ("ordinary combustibles") materials, given that AFFF is intended for class B ("flammable liquids") fires.

Probably w a s Class A foam. The news media doesn't have a clue about the fire service either. [xx(] For that matter, I've used Dawn for overhaul on an old collapsed barn full of old hay (would have let it burn, but it was a hazard if it did) . Does a nice job of reducing surface tension, and costs much less than FF foam. Also great for training - lots of bubbles at a fraction of the price... We don't fight fire with it, though. BTW - I'm an active volunteer fire chief who introduced my department to Class A foam.

[Anonymous]

Well since we're on the subject of FD's [:D] I'm a volunteer firefighter engineer. Just remember, Dont PI[censored] Off the engineer. You might run out of water.[:D]

[JoeKoh]

there was a fire last may at the manville plant here in Defiance.they ran hoses and equipment over the csx main.I just thank god no one was hurt.
stay safe
Joe

[slotracer]

I am on a department in the Rockies, we have Class a foam on all our rigs, and al but one have compressed air capabilities. Water supply is a problem, so the foam extends our 750 gallons on the pumper so we can do a bit more until the tankers arrive. Foam penetrates and sticks to the wood so is extinguishes better than water and "hangs around" a bit to keep things from rekindling as quick while you are busy knocking down other areas of the incident.
In wildfire situations we can foam houses and leave and the fire burns by leaving the home intact. Foam can create a more lasting wet line when trying to contain a fire or widden a scratch line. I have seen compressed air class a foam extinquish magnesium fires in burning vehicles.
I recently was on a large home fire with flames going 20 ft out of the roof, with attic and A end wall fully envolved. We hit it with a 2 1/2" line, the heat melted the decals off my helmet from 30 ft away. We used CAF with compressed air and totally knocked it and the pine trees down in a few minutes with just the 750 gallons of water on the truck....CAF does a great job by us. I can see urban and suburban depts who have hydrants adn all kinds of GPMS at their fingertips would not need foam like we do, but it is a great and effective firefighting tool. It is a releife to have CAF class A when responding to a truck wreck involing petroleum too !

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by drailed1999

Well since we're on the subject of FD's [:D] I'm a volunteer firefighter engineer. Just remember, Dont PI[censored] Off the engineer. You might run out of water.[:D]

Marty [8D]

No, don't cut off the water, just increase the psi and watch them try to stand still. [:D] [:D] [:D]

I had this happen to me once. I was calling the engineer every dirty name I could think of. It is no fun trying to hold a hose with more psi than one person, or two people can hold. And knowing what can happen should you let go . . . . Katy bar the door.

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by drailed1999

Well since we're on the subject of FD's [:D] I'm a volunteer firefighter engineer. Just remember, Dont PI[censored] Off the engineer. You might run out of water.[:D]

Marty [8D]

No, don't cut off the water, just increase the psi and watch them try to stand still. [:D] [:D] [:D]

I had this happen to me once. I was calling the engineer every dirty name I could think of. It is no fun trying to hold a hose with more psi than one person, or two people can hold. And knowing what can happen should you let go . . . . Katy bar the door.

I've been told we once had a pump operator who felt that the governer was there for a reason... The guys on the ladders didn't much care for it. At least the guys on the ground can usually tie it down to something.

Heck, I've gotten whatfor for running the attack lines at optimum pressure for the nozzle in use. Never mind that they were "automatic" nozzles and the nozzleman can set the flow whereever he wants it...

We usually show up with 3000 gallons (1k pumper, 2k tanker), with another 3600 in tankers plus two more pumper on the way. If it's a 60x100 barn, though, that doesn't go far.... Class A gets used on grass & brush, but in a limited way.

[Mookie]

I knew it would happen sooner or later - we have Locomutt and Tree together....stand back y'all!

Mook[8D]

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

I knew it would happen sooner or later - we have Locomutt and Tree together....stand back y'all!

Mook[8D]

Hey, we get along just fine. Just don't get between us and the door if the pager starts bleating!

Station 51, KMG365.

[Mookie]

I had something entirely different in mind...bad Mookie!

[Anonymous]

Watch out Mook , now I'm here. [swg] The only thing worse than getting a bunch of pyros together is getting a bunch of pyros that are RR fans together[:D]

[Mookie]

Send heat! Mookie needs to go into heat!!!!!

[mudchicken]

Loco & Joe:

Sounds like the fire dogs now know to call the railroad when they lay hoses accross tracks. In the late 80's at Pinole, CA they didn't. The work train I was on cut 4 lines at 30mph. Didn't know those guys could move that fast in rubber boots and protective gear!

Smokey Feathers [banghead][banghead][banghead]

[locomutt]

Mudchicken,YOU would be suprised how fast we can MOVE when we have to.
Larry, I know quite well about the pagers,when I first joined,we had all Plectron's
well,needless to say it went off in the middle of the night.When I finally realized
that it was the monitor,I found my clock radio in a few smaller pieces than it
was supposed to be in.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Send heat! Mookie needs to go into heat!!!!!

EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!!!! [:D] Mook, are you getting frisky or trying to cook ????? [:p]

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by drailed1999

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Send heat! Mookie needs to go into heat!!!!!

EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!!!! [:D] Mook, are you getting frisky or trying to cook ????? [:p]

Well, I do it, but really hate to cook - so .....

[:I]

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by locomutt

Mudchicken,YOU would be suprised how fast we can MOVE when we have to.
Larry, I know quite well about the pagers,when I first joined,we had all Plectron's
well,needless to say it went off in the middle of the night.When I finally realized
that it was the monitor,I found my clock radio in a few smaller pieces than it
was supposed to be in.

That's why my pager resides in its charger at night across the room from my bed. [:D] Remember the Plectrons well. I live close enough to the station that I can hear the siren, so I didn't get one. Got a deal on a pager, though, and had the second one in the department, even if it was out of my own pocket.

[locomutt]

Across the room is a much better place than the nightstand
RIGHT NEXT TO THE BED!
I kept wondering why the "snooze" bar didn't work.
Of course after that the whole clock/radio didn't work.
I did live close to the sta. also,but we stopped using the
sirens for fire runs. They became weather warning only.
(also standard CD)

[Anonymous]

I gotta keep my pager across the room too, or else I'll just roll over and shut it off.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by drailed1999

I gotta keep my pager across the room too, or else I'll just roll over and shut it off.

Do that a lot, do you, Marty?

Touche!

Mookie