I am compiling a list of turntables and/or roundhouses that presently exist, even if only as a vague outline on the ground. I am just looking at the aerial photos of the earth using Google Earth and following RR tracks to yards and zooming in where the photos have enough resolution to see if I can see anything of interest.
If you know of one (or more) please describe for me where it is. Please tell me what city and state/country and some description of WHERE in that city, such as direction from the center or from some easily recognizable landmark (dam, major road intersection, large sports complex, etc.) or, if you know the Latitude and Longitude that would be nice, [(Edit 05/23/2007 3:27 PM CDT) but you don't need to provide them; once I find the place I can read them from the web photo/maps]. Any other info about the railroad it belonged/belongs to, or the name of the yard, or the date it was built or torn down would be nice to know, also.
The following is my list so far (my actual Excel list has one more column of "Comments" that offers some more description, but I left that off for this posting in the interest of readability):
EDIT 06/02/2007
State/Country City Lat Lon TurnTable Building AL Birmingham 33° 31' 45" N 86° 50' 27" W Working No AL Birmingham 33° 32' 25" N 86° 50' 11" W No Commercial AL Huntsville 34° 44' 04" N 86° 35' 22" W Working Working AL Montgomery 32° 23' 25" N 86° 18' 24" W Ruin Ruin AL Tarrant City 33° 34' 12" N 86° 47' 12" W No Commercial AR North Little Rock 34° 45' 52" N 92° 15' 04" W Working No AZ Phoenix 33° 27' 21" N 112° 06' 04" W Working Outline AZ Pueblo 38° 15' 36" N 104° 36' 51" W Working Outline AZ Tucson 32° 12' 16" N 110° 58' 45" W No Commercial BC, Canada Coquilam 49° 15' 27" N 122° 45' 33" W Working No BC, Canada Esquimalt 48° 25' 47" N 123° 22' 54" W Working Working CA Bakersville 35° 22' 36" N 118° 59' 10" W Working Outline CA Los Angeles 34° 05' 51" N 118° 14' 21" W Working Outline CA Redondo 34° 01' 09" N 118° 13' 33" W Working Working CA Richmond 37° 56' 05" N 122° 22' 40" W Working No CA Roseville 38° 44' 47" N 121° 17' 28" W Working No CA Sacramento 38° 35' 07" N 121° 30' 19" W Working Working CA Sacramento 38° 35' 17" N 121° 30' 04" W Working No CA San Diego 32° 42' 10" N 117° 09' 14" W Working No CA San Jose 37° 20' 18" N 121° 54' 30" W Working Outline CA Stockton 37° 56' 05" N 121° 16' 26" W Working No CO Colorado Springs 38° 50' 25" N 104° 51' 36" W No Commercial CO Colorado Springs 38° 52' 00" N 104° 49' 54" W No Commercial CO Durango 37° 16' 05" N 107° 52' 59" W Working Working CO Golden 39° 46' 18" N 105° 11' 31" W Working Working CT East Hartford 41° 46' 45" N 72° 37' 47" W No Commercial CT Hartford 41° 46' 48" N 72° 40' 10" W No Commercial Czech Rep Prague 50° 03' 39" N 14° 27' 36" E Working Working DE Wilmington 39° 44' 41" N 75° 31' 28" W No Commercial France Paris 48° 45' 25" N 2° 26' 13" E Working Working France Paris 48° 54' 41" N 2° 21' 17" E Working Outline GA Athens 33° 57' 57" N 83° 22' 28" W No No GA Atlanta 33° 46' 02" N 84° 24' 01" W No Commercial GA Atlanta 33° 48' 00" N 84° 26' 18" W Working Outline GA Atlanta 33° 43' 54" N 84° 23' 53" W Working Working GA Savanna 32° 04' 32" N 81° 06' 06" W No Commercial GA Summerville 34° 28' 43" N 85° 20' 47" W Working? No IA Cedar Rapids 41° 59' 04" N 91° 40' 11" W No No IA Cedar Rapids 41° 59' 13" N 91° 40' 15" W No Outline IA Cedar Rapids 41° 59' 18" N 91° 40' 09" W No No IA Council Bluffs 41° 14' 00" N 95° 50' 04" W Working No IA Council Bluffs 41° 16' 09" N 95° 51' 40" W Working Working IA Davenport 41° 29' 14" N 90° 38' 12" W Working Working IA Des Moines 41° 35' 17" N 93° 34' 24" W No Outline IA Iowa City 41° 39' 21" N 91° 31' 47" W No Commercial IA Oelwein 42° 40' 59" N 91° 55' 36" W Track Fan Working IA Waterloo 42° 30' 24" N 92° 19' 55" W Working Working ID Nampa 43° 34' 14" N 116° 32' 50" W Working Outline ID Pocatello 42° 52' 06" N 112° 27' 06" W No Outline IL Aurora 41° 46' 18" N 88° 16' 23" W Working Outline IL Aurora 41° 45' 39" N 88° 18' 31" W No Residential? IL Bedford Park 41° 46' 10" N 87° 45' 28" W Working Outline IL Bensonville 41° 57' 13" N 87° 55' 55" W Working Outline IL Bloomington 40° 29' 21" N 89° 00' 24" W No Outline IL Blue Island 41° 38' 58" N 87° 37' 34" W Working No IL Brooklyn 38° 39' 15" N 90° 09' 30" W No Outline IL Centralia 38° 30' 04" N 89° 08' 43" W Working Working IL East Hazel Crest 41° 34' 10" N 87° 39' 36" W Working No IL East St. Louis 38° 38' 00" N 90° 09' 07" W No Yes IL Joliet 41° 32' 16" N 88° 03' 30" W Working Working IL Rock Island 41° 30' 31" N 90° 33' 12" W Working? Outline IL Silvis 41° 30' 57" N 90° 24' 56" W No Outline IL Springfield 39° 47' 29" N 89° 38' 35" W No Commercial IL Stone Park 41° 53' 55" N 87° 53' 42" W Working No IL Waukegan 42° 21' 30" N 87° 49' 41" W Working No IL West Peoria 40° 40' 17" N 89° 36' 53" W No Outline IN Bloomington 39° 08' 50" N 86° 32' 07" W No Outline IN Evansville 37° 57' 48" N 87° 36' 27" W Working Working IN Frankfort 40° 16' 55" N 86° 31' 18" W Working Working IN Ft. Wayne 41° 04' 14" N 85° 07' 20" W No Outline IN Ft. Wayne 41° 04' 21" N 85° 02' 01" W Working No IN Gary 41° 36' 48" N 87° 21' 11" W Working Working IN Hammond 41° 36' 14" N 87° 28' 00" W Working Working IN Indianapolis 39° 45' 41" N 86° 08' 21" W No Outline IN Indianapolis 39° 48' 24" N 86° 08' 22" W No Outline IN Washington 38° 39' 25" N 87° 11' 40" W No Outline KS Goodland 39° 20' 28" N 101° 42' 55" W Working Outline KS Kansas City 39° 05' 25" N 94° 38' 24" W Working Outline KS Newton 38° 02' 44" N 97° 20' 52" W Working No KS Wichita 37° 43' 58" N 97° 20' 03" W No Outline KY Louisville 38° 16' 08" N 85° 48' 09" W Working Working KY Loyall 36° 51' 20" N 83° 20' 57" W Outline? Warehouse? KY Ludlow 39° 05' 30" N 84° 32' 48" W No Outline KY Russell 38° 32' 10" N 82° 41' 58" W Working Outline LA Baton Rouge 30° 28' 07" N 91° 11' 21" W Working No LA New Orleans 29° 54' 58" N 90° 06' 19" W Working Working LA Shreveport 32° 30' 24" N 93° 30' 84" W Working Outline MA Greenfield 42° 34' 19" N 72° 34' 01" W Working Working MD Baltimore 39° 17' 08" N 76° 37' 58" W Working Working MD Baltimore 39° 19' 00" N 76° 37' 32" W No Commercial MD Brunswick 39° 18' 39" N 77° 37' 26" W Working Outline MD Cumberland 39° 37' 47" N 78° 45' 56" W Working Working MD Frostburg 39° 39' 25" N 78° 55' 28" W Working No ME Bangor 44° 47' 09" N 68° 46' 39" W No Ruin ME Hermon 44° 47' 26" N 68° 51' 55" W Working Working ME South Portland 43° 37' 31" N 70° 17' 43" W Working Working ME Waterville 44° 34' 06" N 69° 37' 00" W Trans Table Working ME Waterville 44° 33' 59" N 69° 37' 09" W Working Working Mexico Mexico City 19° 31' 34" N 99° 11' 01" W Working Working MI Dearborn 42° 18' 25" N 83° 13' 48" W Working Working MI Detroit 42° 19' 19" N 83° 07' 02" W No Outline MI Grand Rapids 42° 56' 11" N 85° 40' 42" W Working No MI Grand Rapids 42° 56' 41" N 85° 42' 13" W No Outline MI Kalamazoo 42° 17' 38" N 85° 33' 58" W No Outline MI Owosso 42° 59' 38" N 84° 09' 56" W Working No MI Pontiac 42° 39' 22" N 83° 19' 05" W Working Ruin MI Proctor 46° 45' 29" N 92° 14' 26" W Working Working MI Wells 45° 46' 34" N 87° 03' 56" W No Working MN Brainerd 46° 21' 24" N 94° 11' 14" W No Outline MN Columbia Heights 45° 02' 49" N 93° 16' 21" W Working No MN Dilworth 46° 52' 22" N 96° 41' 34" W No Outline MN Minneapolis 44° 59' 39" N 93° 14' 41" W No Outline MN Minneapolis 45° 01' 11" N 93° 14' 58" W Overgrown Commercial MN Montevideo 44° 56' 33" N 95° 43' 39" W Ruin Outline MN Rollag 46° 44' 51" N 96° 14' 06" W Working Working MN Sharonville 39° 16' 04" N 84° 25' 06" W Working Outline MN St Paul 44° 56' 23" N 93° 02' 50" W Working Working MN St Paul 44° 57' 21" N 93° 11' 11" W Working Working MN St Paul 44° 57' 45" N 93° 05' 45" W Working Working MN Thief River Falls 48° 07' 50" N 96° 10' 32" W Working Working MN Wabasha 44° 23' 02" N 92° 02' 56" W No Commercial MN Wilmar 45° 07' 27" N 95° 01' 59" W Working No MO Alorton 38° 36' 04" N 90° 07' 47" W Working No MO Kansas City 39° 04' 46" N 94° 36' 03" W Yes Yes MO Kansas City 39° 07' 14" N 94° 30' 00" W Working No MO Springfield 37° 13' 48" N 93° 18' 34" W Working No MO St. Louis 38° 37' 56" N 90° 14' 46" W Yes Outline MO St. Louis 38° 41' 28" N 90° 12' 54" W Working No MS Columbus 33° 30' 03" N 88° 24' 43" W Working Working MS Vicksburg 32° 20' 37" N 90° 53' 17" W Working No MT Butte 46° 00' 34" N 112° 31' 11" W No Yes MT Glendive 47° 06' 18" N 104° 42' 34" W Working Working MT Great Falls 47° 30' 00" N 111° 18' 51" W Working Outline MT Havre 48° 33' 10" N 109° 39' 49" W Working No MT Helena 46° 36' 04" N 112° 00' 38" W Working Outline MT Miles City 46° 24' 59" N 105° 50' 26" W No Outline MT Whitefish 48° 24' 47" N 114° 20' 47" W Working Working NB Freemont 41° 25' 34" N 96° 28' 31" W Working Outline NC Asheville 35° 34' 01" N 82° 33' 41" W Track Fan Working NC East Spencer 35° 41' 10" N 80° 26' 10" W Working Working NC Greensboro 36° 03' 33" N 79° 50' 59" W No Commercial NC Raleigh 35° 47' 15" N 78° 38' 31" W Working Outline ND Fargo 46° 53' 23" N 96° 48' 57" W No Outline ND Grand Forks 47° 55' 03" N 97° 02' 46" W Working Working ND Mandan 46° 49' 30" N 100° 53' 21" W Working Outline NE Lincoln 40° 48' 39" N 96° 44' 00" W Working No NE Lincoln 40° 49' 13" N 96° 42' 52" W No Outline NE Omaha 41° 13' 49" N 95° 54' 55" W Working No NH North Conway 44° 03' 07" N 71° 07' 46" W Working Outline NJ Newark 40° 42' 58" N 74° 09' 32" W Working Working NJ Ridgefield Park 40° 50' 23" N 74° 01' 46" W Working No NM Albuquerque 35° 04' 23" N 106° 39' 01" W Working Outline NM Belen 34° 39' 16" N 106° 46' 03" W Working Outline NM Clovis 34° 23' 48" N 103° 12' 41" W Working Outline NY Binghamton 42° 05' 48" N 75° 51' 12" W No Commercial NY Binghamton 42° 05' 53" N 75° 51' 26" W Working No NY Port Jervis 41° 22' 35" N 74° 41' 41" W Working Ruin NY Rome 43° 11' 56" N 75° 27' 15" W No Damaged NY Utica 43° 06' 28" N 75° 14' 01" W No Commercial NY Watertown 43° 57' 19" N 75° 56' 59" W Pit? Outline? NY Watertown 43° 58' 21" N 75° 55' 50" W Pit? Outline? OH Akron 41° 03' 47" N 81° 27' 26" W Working No OH Cleveland 41° 26' 12" N 82° 08' 44" W No Outline OH Columbus 39° 54' 35" N 82° 59' 02" W Working Working OH Marion 40° 35' 25" N 83° 09' 03" W No Outline OK Oklahoma City 35° 27' 22" N 97° 29' 48" W Working Outline ON, Canada Toronto 43° 38' 27" N 79° 23' 09" W No Commercial ON, Canada Toronto 43° 48' 09" N 79° 14' 45" W Working No OR Ashland 42° 11' 55" N 122° 42' 19" W No Outline OR Eugene 44° 03' 60" N 123° 07' 40" W Working Outline OR Portland 45° 29' 28" N 122° 38' 45" W Working Working OR Portland 45° 38' 58" N 122° 41' 10" W Working No PA Altoona 40° 32' 12" N 78° 22' 52" W Working Working PA Bethlehem 40° 37' 10" N 75° 24' 39" W No Outline PA Clifton Forge 37° 48' 36" N 79° 50' 09" W Working Ruin PA Connellsville 40° 00' 24" N 79° 35' 40" W Working Run PA Conway 40° 30' 04" N 80° 14' 31" W Working Working PA Enola 40° 17' 43" N 76° 55' 37" W Working Working PA Monroeville 40° 26' 05" N 79° 48' 12" W Working Working PA Orbisonia 40° 14' 25" N 77° 54' 00" W Working Working PA Philadelphia 39° 55' 43" N 75° 12' 29" W Working No PA Port Clinton 40° 34' 54" N 76° 01' 37" W Working Working PA Scranton 41° 24' 26" N 75° 40' 16" W Working Working Peru Chosica 11° 56' 03" S 76° 41' 29" W Working Peru Lima 12° 02' 24" S 77° 02' 19" W Working Working Peru San Bartolome 11° 54' 14" S 76° 30' 57" W Working No SD Aberdeen 45° 27' 52" N 98° 29' 47" W Track Fan Working SD Huron 44° 21' 57" N 98° 12' 21" W Working Working SD Mitchell 43° 42' 27" N 98° 01' 35" W Working Outline SK, Canada Moose Jaw 50° 23' 16" N 105° 32' 15" W Working No TN Chattanooga 35° 03' 37" N 85° 15' 01" W Working No TN Memphis 35° 04' 13" N 90° 04' 15" W Working Working TN Nashville 36° 05' 31" N 86° 45' 09" W Working Working TX Amarillo 35° 11' 43" N 101° 49' 44" W Working Outline TX El Paso 31° 45' 23" N 106° 29' 45" W Working No TX Fort Worth 32° 43' 41" N 97° 22' 02" W Working No TX Fort Worth 32° 47' 22" N 97° 20' 44" W Working No TX Houston 29° 44' 41" N 95° 20' 25" W Working Outline TX Maybelle 31° 48' 06" N 95° 18' 05" W Working No UT Ogden 41° 12' 47" N 111° 59' 07" W Outline Outline UT Ogden 41° 13' 35" N 111° 58' 59" W No Outline UT Salt Lake City 40° 47' 22" N 111° 54' 29" W Working No VA Norfolk 36° 52' 26" N 76° 18' 59" W Working Working VA Roanoke 37° 16' 28" N 79° 55' 50" W Working Working
Semper Vaporo
Pkgs.
I can add a few to your GA section. I believe that there are only two roundhouses left in GA. And I put all of the turntables that I know of (can think of right now). I also tried to add some detail to what you already have. Have you considered posting the KMZ file somewhere? It would make it a lot easier than trying to copy and paste the cordinates.
There are only two problems with posting the KMZ file.
1) I don't "know" HOW.
2) I dont "know" WHERE.
Those two things (with an emphasis on "KNOW") always seem to severely limit my usefullness.
Thanks for the info. I will look for the places and add them to my list. Your "comments" are appreciated also.
The C&EIL is still standing in Villa Grove, IL, atleast it was bout a month ago. TT been gone for years though. Don't have the Lat/Lon, hope you can find them
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http://www.trainboard.com/railimages/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/4309
HOW IN THE WORLD DID I MISS SOME OF THOSE!!!!!
And apologies to the Savannah Roundhouse Railroad Museum for marking the use of the building as "Warehouse?". From space it is a bit hard to tell what the actual use of a building is. I could tell it was in good repair, but the lack of tracks in the area had me a bit confused. The "Comment" in my list is "Nice, but no tracks anywhere."
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You may be right. The yard is an East/West yard and the TT is on the North side. I almost called this one "Berkeley" as that city name is closer to the yard, but the TT is on the Stone Park side. Melrose Park is farther (not much) away to the East. There is another, smaller North/South yard closer to Melrose Park on the North side between Melrose Park and Franklin Park, but I can find no TTs in that area.
Another couple of places were the resolution is just too poor to see anything. In the Peoria, IL area, there is a dividing point in the photos where West Peoria is high res, but Peoria (and east) is low res. I can tell that there are probably at least 2 large railyards in East Peoria, but can't see enough detail to state that as a fact, or see what the track structure is like or what buildings are there.
Have you considered the Google Earth Forum? They allow you to post the KMZ file. They may even help you find some. Here's the one for trasportation: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/modEarthTransportation
Also, remember that Microsoft is trying to compete with Goggle. The now have their Microsoft Live going, and the resolution is far better. Plus they give you four angles. Of course the downside is that they have only flown their aircraft over select areas, but they hope to have something like 80 percent of N. America and Europe done in the near future.
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=pntx1m81jxb3&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=5829210&encType=1
Also, everything that I have read about the Savannaha turntable says that it is operable. I guess that I need to go down there and see for myself!
http://railga.com/oddend/roundhouse.html
Semper Vaporo wrote: You may be right. The yard is an East/West yard and the TT is on the North side. I almost called this one "Berkeley" as that city name is closer to the yard, but the TT is on the Stone Park side. Melrose Park is farther (not much) away to the East. There is another, smaller North/South yard closer to Melrose Park on the North side between Melrose Park and Franklin Park, but I can find no TTs in that area.
Yep--sounds like Proviso. Melrose Park virtually surrounds Stone Park. The yard has been my "home away from home" for 36-plus years, so I'm somewhat familiar with it. Confirm with the street address of 5050 W. Lake St., Melrose Park.
Portions of Proviso are within the limits of six area suburbs: Franklin Park, Northlake, Melrose Park, Bellwood, Berkeley, and Elmhurst.
Janesville, WI. The WSOR roundhouse and turntable. Try 203 S. Pearl St.
Horicon, WI. The enginehouse is called the roundhouse. Might have had a turntable in the past, not sure. Rectangular building with 3 tracks going inside.
Madison, WI. Former CNW roundhouse. Recently had a fire in the building. Used to be a caboose inside, not sure how well it survived the fire.
That is all I can think of for now. Good luck!
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I recall there being a couple of turntables in Savanna, Illinois years ago. At least the Milwaukee one was in use when I was in high school, but that was 1982. Not sure their current status.
The old two-stall BCR&N roundhouse is still standing in Iowa City, although the turntable is long gone. Its obvious shape is easier to see up close, but here's a sat link. Its the middle building standing askew. The engines entered from the northeast. Back in the 1980's it was a Suds N Duds, but I have no idea what it might be today. Iowa City, IA, USA - Google Maps
I'll bet there are a lot more roundhouse "footprints" out there. Seems I'm always finding them when I research abandoned lines.
Watertown, NY, NYC, 43 58'21.63"N, 75 35'50.30"W - buildings long gone. Just east of current county jail. You can still pick out the pit and most of the tracks.
Utica, NY, DL&W, 43 06'28.90"N 75 14' 01.40W. Tracks are gone, believe the building is now a private concern. Pit may still be there, but has been filled in.
Rome, NY, NYO&W, 43 11' 55.92"N 75 27'14.15"W. Tracks long, long gone, two or three stall roundhouse still stands, but satellite image looks like roof has collapsed.
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Dough: Yes, I started with a list on one of the Google forums, but it dissappeared on me, and then I lost the ability to access the forum altogether, so I gave up several weeks ago. I tried your link and it works again. Go fig! (I hate cornpewters! And I made my living programming them for 40 years!!!!! By which I have come up with the following adage: "Computers are neither smart, nor dumb... they are mean, just plain ol' mean!") Anyway, I still can't find the original list that was there but I am looking for some of the individual items that are listed in 49 threads with "Roundhouse" in a title on the "Transportation (unmoderated)" forum; I could not find any threads about Roundhouses on the "Transportation (moderated)" forum.
Dough: The TT looks like it could work, but I "see" no tracks to it. The only indication of tracks are what appear to be abandoned roadbeds to the north and the west.
CShaveRR: I have heard about Proviso Yard many times but never knew just where it was. Thanks. And yes, those are the names of all the "cities" that Giggle lists in the area.
WSOR 3801: Janesville and Horicon are too low of resolution to see anything. If the Madison RH is on the east side of the big lake then that is the one I have listed. No Turntable and no tracks to it (faces away from the only track in the area). If what you are thinking of is on the west side then the resolution is not good enough to see anything (the city is split right down the middle, high res on the east, low res on the west).
deepspire:Savanna, IL... too low of resolution. Iowa City... that one is really obscure since there are no RR Tracks near it. Thanks.
Tree68:Watertown: A typo in your coordinates put me off about 15 miles east of Watertown, NY, (about a mile east of Carthage). But that made me look around Watertown a bit!I think you meant the outline of a very overgrown TT & RH at: 43°58'21.64"N, 75°55'50.34"W (west of Watertown). But, in looking around I also found a vague outline of a TT at: 43°57'19.49"N, 75°56'59.18"W (Southwest of Watertown).Utica, Nice building, but no evidence of the TT pit anymore.Rome, Yes, the roof looks in bad shape.
All:I will also look up all these places that are too low res on Giggle Erp on some of the other map/photo sites to see if they are any better. I'll have to add another column in my list for which web site the TT & RH can be "Seen" on.
Also, I never figured I'd find more than a dozen active, working roundhouses, nor more than maybe a hundred ruins in obscure places. From what I have found so far, I bet there are hundreds of active, working roundhouses and thousands of ruins still visible from the aerial photos, even in just the high resolution ones.
Yikes! Go to http://www.railpictures.net/. Do a search for turntable and then roundhouse. It comes up with a BUNCH of hits. Even if you only look at the ones in the US I already see some that aren't on your list. I could help if you need it, as it would take quite a while to search that list.
I am very tempted to say, "You take the results of a search for 'Turntable' and I'll take the result of a search for 'Roundhouse". But since it found only ONE (read it right, "1") 'Roundhouse' that would not really be fair!
Take off from either end of the list (I think it said there were 298 photos of "Turntable") and I'll start at the other end. Which end do you want to start from?
Do you have microsoft "Excel"? I could send you the list I have now in that form as a starting place. Or you can make your own list and share it back to me and I'll figure out how to blend it with my list and then send it back to you.
Semper,
While the Google Resolution for Savanna is poor, the Yahoo one is decent enough for me to tell the Milwaukee roundhouse is completely gone. (I later remembered the problems they had removing it and redeveloping because of toxic soil.) The old Q roundhouse footprint I can tell is barely there, but so overgrown its impossible to discern. I just remember where it was. A winter shot would capture it in this case.
This site allows you to interchange between several different image places. (Yahoo, Google, Virtual Earth, etc.) I use it in situations where Google Earth is poor. It works very well and is quite useful: Flash Earth ..
This is going to be a good thread, and an important one too, I think..
Bridge Street/Washington Street, Salem, MA. The building marked Salem Depot on Google Maps is where the control tower used to be. There are two parking lots in the satellite photo. The one to the left has been there for many years, while the one directly to the north covers the location of the turntable and the roundhouse. I can't see any hint of their existence in the current image. In the early 1950s my friends and I used to walk around there on the turntable and in the roundhouse. The tower operator showed us how everything worked in the tower and let us operate the mechanical switch and signal levers.
Salem Depot was an imposing gray granite structure at the south end of the RR tunnel under downtown Salem. I'm not sure how people came to name the control tower Salem Depot.
First.This is a very interesting search and one that will take a while to complete.
Second.The listing you show for Worthington,Ky should show Russell,Ky.This is at the mechanical facility of CSX.It is a working up to date turntable.The old wooden roundhouse and coal tipple were razed a few years back.The engine "house" and ready track are very active.Russell is a GE warranty shop.
Now for some information I didn't see but may have over looked.
The NS has a turntable,longhouse and roundhouse in Williamson,WVa (N&W).They both are used by the car shop and not the mechanical department.The roundhouse has two shifts that repair cars.The turntable is used to move the cars around to the different stalls for repair.
Although the turntable is in service,it is not up-to-date to turn locomotives.I was told by an official that he has been trying to get the turntable in the budget to update it to handle locomotives.
Portsmouth,Ohio (N&W),only has a longhouse and some of the car repair buildings left.A portion of the roundhouse foundation and tracks are all that remain.
At one time Kenova,WVa (N&W) had some sort of roundhouse and turntable.I've never seen pictures of either one and am only going by what the "old heads" told me when I hired on .But there is a track over the hill that's called "the roundhouse lead".
Hope this information helps you out .
Collin ,operator of the " Eastern Kentucky & Ohio R.R."
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http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=48.429777,-123.381057&spn=0.001659,0.004742&t=k&z=17&om=0
Others-
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http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=10&Z=15&X=1700&Y=24993&W=1&qs=%7cwillmar%7c%7c
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=sharonville,+oh&ie=UTF8&ll=39.268087,-84.41843&spn=0.001935,0.004742&t=k&z=17&om=0
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/srchThumbs.aspx?srch=turntable&search=Search
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/srchThumbs.aspx?srch=roundhouse&search=Search
Semper Vaporo wrote: Watertown: A typo in your coordinates put me off about 15 miles east of Watertown, NY, (about a mile east of Carthage). But that made me look around Watertown a bit!I think you meant the outline of a very overgrown TT & RH at: 43°58'21.64"N, 75°55'50.34"W (west of Watertown).
But, in looking around I also found a vague outline of a TT at: 43°57'19.49"N, 75°56'59.18"W (Southwest of Watertown).
I'm thinking there was also some sort of facility near where the tracks cross the Black River (north of the locations I gave), but I've never really researched it, so don't know for sure. I think it supported a traction line.
deepspire:It sure helps when a person knows the area and exactly where thing were. Sometimes the outline is recognizable if you KNOW it is there, even in the low resolutions. I will try other map sites when I have more time.
I did try your link to Flash Earth. Interesting to have the multiple systems on one interface, but Google seemed to be the best resolution in the few areas where I tried it.
BUT, I sure don't appreciate their interface. Really irritating the way it sometimes locks the "button down" when I try to pan long distances. Click and drag and then release the button to move the mouse back to the starting edge and sometimes the map would pan with the mouse even though the button had been released. A second click would make the place the mouse is pointing at jump to the center. I'm trying to follow an obscure abandoned rail line and I lose track when those types of things happen. Also, lots of the images from the other sites are "washed-out" or foggy and even the Google ones are affected if I zoom in too far... a "fog bank" rolls in from the Thames and a dozen slashed-circles show up distorting detail. Please, no insult to you, tain't your fault... I am just irritated by it! I could probably get used to it, but that may take longer than I am willing to put into it. Yes, I am seeking instant gratification and Google Earth is coming closest to it so far. I have a lot of "ground" to cover and there are still many higher resolution areas using Google that I have not looked at yet. I have started a second section to my list that contains places to look at with the other map sites when I feel I have exhausted Google Earth's abilities.
Cordon:Again, knowing WHERE to look is a great advantage, especially when the powers that be have paved it over with a parking lot! Sad to lose them, but I guess that is progress and you can't save EVERYTHING.
mackb4:Interesting to be sure, but what started out as a "Look! I found a roundhouse! I wonder how many more I can find?" has become almost overwhelming! Sure is fun though. I just hope no one is insulted if I can't find a particular site and don't add it to "my" list.Thanks for the correction to the name of the Russell, Ky site. I have to guess as to which nearby city is the appropriate one to use and it is sometimes difficult to decide which one is "closer" and even that may not produce the "correct" name.I will go looking for the other places you list as I can. I am getting quite a list of possibilities!
nanaimo73:Thanks, even more to go after!
tree68:Thanks for suppling "names" for the yards... I see another column for the list, aside from the "Comments".
youngengineer:Ah! Another column to add... Narrow/standard gauge, Traction, Ammusment Park, etc. I may as well try to add anything somebody might be interested in.
All:I will try to update the list on a weekly basis until I run out of information from others and after that only when I happen to find more. Does anybody know how long I can "edit" the first post I made? Can I edit it 'always' or only within some number of day after it is posted? I'd rather update it in one place (and maybe post a note at the end of the thread to indicate I have done so) rather than keep adding long lists to the thread.
Semper Vaporo:
Try searching roundhouse again, and make sure that you haven't selected any of the drop down menus like particular states. There are a lot.
Also, do you want to include transfer tables such as the one at GE's locomotive plant in Erie, PA. These slid up and down instead of spinning in a circle. I am having a hard time finding a good aerial picture, but Trains September 1999 addition has a picture of it on page 51.
And finally yes I do have excel. You can email me the excel file, and I'll just add on. I don't care which end I start at.
deepspire:
The one thing that I really do like about that interface is that you can switch between modes quickly. I found this useful when looking at maps of different eras. Apparently Microsoft has some really old maps, so it is cool to switch between the then and now. I did this with the GE plant in Erie, PA and you can see the downsizing pretty well!
Got another one:
Buffalo, NY's Frontier Yard: 42° 53' 58"N 78° 48' 38"W The turntable is completely gone, and it is used as a warehouse. (Very good resolution in Google Earth)
Edit: Ok, now I'm confused. The one above may have been an old roundhouse, but it wasn't in use in the 1950's? And I think the big one from the 1950's was torn down for yard expansion, but the original one is still there? http://www.railfan.net/maps/1950usgs/bison50.jpg
I'm going to try to search out the ones listed on the maps of this page.
http://www.railfan.net/maps/1950usgs/
Wow there were a bunch of turntables and roundhouses in Buffalo!!! I'll give details of which road they belonged to whenever you can send me the excel file. Also, I'm going to keep editing this reply for a while.
This one for sure: Buffalo, NY 42° 52' 43"N 78° 49' 13" W Ruins of both roundhouse and turntable
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