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Ummm... this can't be good

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Ummm... this can't be good
Posted by Mikeygaw on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 10:22 PM
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=40361

getting a little hot in the kitchen for the crewman at the controls, huh?
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Posted by sooblue on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 10:57 PM
cool picture,
If I remember correctly GEs are noted for belching fire. I had a GE washing machine that did the same thing. A GE micro wave, that did the same thing, and a GE toaster that did the same thing. They really design their products to give their customers a visual warning that they are over loading their equipment.
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Posted by heavyd on Thursday, December 4, 2003 2:25 AM
LOL yah, I have alot of GE stuff that seems to belch fire too. Actually I am a diesel technician and the GE above is WAY over-fueling! Black exhaust from a diesel is an indication of too much fuel for the air it was injected into. Improper combustion makes it black but it is still very flammable. Once the exhaust leaves the stack it comes in contact with more air and heat from ignition is still hot enough to ingite the unburnt fuel to what you see above! Most diesel engines have air/fuel ratio control devices to prevent over-fueling but I think GE's wasn't very good. With the price of fuel these days they are wasting alot of $$$
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, December 4, 2003 6:36 AM
That pony is hot to trot!

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, December 4, 2003 8:02 AM
Saw the same thing in the Montreal secondary - local stopped for beans at a small town convenience store (on the mainline, no less). When they accelerated from the stop, they threw a nice ball of flame up. Quite the wake up for those waiting at the crossing...

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Posted by locomutt on Thursday, December 4, 2003 8:12 AM
WHAT GE's , Not ALCO's[?]
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Posted by jchnhtfd on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:11 AM
Maybe the engineer (or engine?) has delusions of being a fueler dragster or funny car?[:D] They do that to entertain the crowd!
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:14 AM
You are all wrong.

That's NS's new over sized load collision avoidance unit.......Car Hazard Avoidance Reducer or CHAR. After the Chicago incident where the auto rack impacted the overpass, NS installed them on the lead locos. It's designed to burn away any low obstacles that might interfere with excess hieght cars. Note the auto rack trailing the locomotives.
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Posted by bnsfkline on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:19 AM
Hmmmm....Maybe the railroad hired a Pokemon named Charmander to get peoples attention at grade crossings, I tell ya, That will prevent people from trying to beat the trains at grade crossings! (Yeah, My girlfriend makes me watch Pokemon with her 6 year old sister)
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:37 AM
Yeah it was MISSOURI trying to burn away foilage
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:41 AM
How long does/can that last? Can it / does it damage the loco at all?

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by talbanese

How long does/can that last? Can it / does it damage the loco at all?

-Tom


The example I saw in person lasted just a few seconds, until the oil in the exhaust burned up and the mixture thinned out.

I'm not an expert on the inner workings of locos, but I am a firefighter and surmise that the oil in the exhaust was hot enough to burn, but could not until it got to more oxygen. That would mean that all of the fire was outside the loco, since the exhaust was under pressure.

Hence, probably no damage to the loco (aside from the manufacturers plate)[:p]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:50 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by talbanese

How long does/can that last? Can it / does it damage the loco at all?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:54 AM
Yall are all wrong. [B)]

It is just LC showing out. [}:)]

You know he will do just about anything to get in a picture these days. [;)]

I can't wait to see what he does to top this. [:p]

(Maybe HOBO JOE was a little cold that day.) [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 11:08 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by talbanese

How long does/can that last? Can it / does it damage the loco at all?

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Tom [:D]

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, December 4, 2003 12:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by talbanese

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by talbanese

How long does/can that last? Can it / does it damage the loco at all?

-Tom


Tom [:D]

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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, December 4, 2003 1:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Yall are all wrong. [B)]

It is just LC showing out. [}:)]

You know he will do just about anything to get in a picture these days. [;)]

I can't wait to see what he does to top this. [:p]



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Posted by DTomajko on Thursday, December 4, 2003 2:21 PM
I've seen that in person from a trailing GE in an eastbound NS manifest on the Pittsburgh line near Pitcairn,Pa.,(the start of the climb up the Alleghenies for eastbounds on the former PRR).Sometimes that condition can result from oil leaks from the seals on the turbo impeller shaft leaking into the exhaust.Oil leaking into the intake side could cause a run-away engine since the oil is not regulated like the fuel is through the injectors.I've seen large truck engines run-away until they blew up from overspeeding or seizing from lack of oil.I did have a Peterbilt lose its turbo once and blow about 5 gallons of oil out the exhaust stacks and cover everything within 100 feet with oil,(naturally the closest other vehicle was a local police car!!!).If an ALCo was an honorary steam engine for its smoke production ability,maybe GEs should be honorary ALCos!!!!!!!Good luck & stay safe.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Thursday, December 4, 2003 2:36 PM
I have seen GE's shoot fire occasionally,but never anything like that!Gather a group of friends,break out the hot dogs and marshmellows,and have a picnic.[:D][8D]
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Posted by Train Guy 3 on Thursday, December 4, 2003 9:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

I have seen GE's shoot fire occasionally,but never anything like that!Gather a group of friends,break out the hot dogs and marshmellows,and have a picnic.[:D][8D]




That's GE's latest model. Comes with heated leather seats, 9 cup holders, mini-fridge, flat screen tv, and built in grill...... did you want that burger medium of well done?

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 9:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Train Guy 3

QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

I have seen GE's shoot fire occasionally,but never anything like that!Gather a group of friends,break out the hot dogs and marshmellows,and have a picnic.[:D][8D]


That's GE's latest model. Comes with heated leather seats, 9 cup holders, mini-fridge, flat screen tv, and built in grill...... did you want that burger medium of well done?

Yeh! Great family Christmas celebration, the all new GE "Loco BBQ grill and party set" [:D][^][:)][:p][xx(]( some risk involved in passing through tunnels, GE shall not be made guilty for user injuries)
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 10:18 PM
Luxury all the way...... You want fries with that burger?[:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 5, 2003 1:31 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

Luxury all the way...... You want fries with that burger?[:)]



Yeahhhhhhhhh, make mine chili-cheese fries. [:D] [:D] [:D]
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Posted by wabash1 on Friday, December 5, 2003 9:48 AM
I ran that engine about 2 weeks ago its a dog. the thing with these ge engines is you hit number 5 throttle and it will light up the sky go to 6 and you get a little more the best thing is be in 8 let it load up start smoking and drop a notch the fire starts then drop 2 more you can get a 6-10 ft high 2-3 ft wide flame for about a half mile . these engine will shut themselves down if it gets to be to much. the code has something to do with the intake side ( i forget the code number ) I make these engines do this at night so i can see the deer beside the tracks.

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