CP 2816 to visit USA in 2007 with a BIG BONUS

[coborn35]

If it was not for the Genesis the trips would not run at all ... these are officially Amtrak trips, using Amtrak liability insurance (and a few coaches)

Dave Nelson

I've been trying to figure out whether the trips will have a Amtrak Loco or not. I know what you mentioned Dave is how the 261 trips run, but I was looking at a few photos from the last time that the 2816 was to Milwaukee a few years ago, and in them it would appear it ran without a Genesis. I wonder if the Genesis will be only on the double header, perhaps because the 261 is going to be long. 

Either way I'm looking forward to the trips! A friend and I are already making plans to try and chase from Winona, MN to the Portage/Columbus, Wi area, and then go back and chase the double header from Winona to La Crescent a few weeks later. It seems like this should be a good couple of weeks!

Noah

I doubt the #2816 does, but im pretty sure the #261 always runs with an Amtrak unit. They even left it on when we ran it. 

[kschmidt]

Well the "Big Bonus" is the doubleheader with Milwaukee #261.  I am also wondering about the Amtrak unit.  If this is a railroad sponsored event the Amtrak unit might not be needed.  I think most of the "Friends of the 261" equipment has its own generators.  No Amtrak Genesis would be great.

The Hiawatha trains run from Milwaukee to Chicago and back on the CP tracks.  They stop in Sturtevant (where the wye is to turn #2816) and Glenview. 

Keith

[cpprfld]

What is the route for the Milwaukee Road Hiawathas in Wisconsin?

[Noah Hofrichter]

If it was not for the Genesis the trips would not run at all ... these are officially Amtrak trips, using Amtrak liability insurance (and a few coaches)

Dave Nelson

I've been trying to figure out whether the trips will have a Amtrak Loco or not. I know what you mentioned Dave is how the 261 trips run, but I was looking at a few photos from the last time that the 2816 was to Milwaukee a few years ago, and in them it would appear it ran without a Genesis. I wonder if the Genesis will be only on the double header, perhaps because the 261 is going to be long. 

Either way I'm looking forward to the trips! A friend and I are already making plans to try and chase from Winona, MN to the Portage/Columbus, Wi area, and then go back and chase the double header from Winona to La Crescent a few weeks later. It seems like this should be a good couple of weeks!

Noah

[tatans]

What's the bonus???

[dknelson]

If it was not for the Genesis the trips would not run at all ... these are officially Amtrak trips, using Amtrak liability insurance (and a few coaches)

Dave Nelson

[Grinandbearit]

Don't blame CP for the Genesis! 2816 often runs alone as evididenced by the pictures on another reply. It is usually accomanied by a Tuscan and grey GP-38-2 or a pair of restored F units in vintage paint on long runs away from home.

[CNW 6000]

[jeaton]

ROAD TRIP!!!!

[CNW 6000]

AMEN to that!  I'll be snapping pics of these badboys when they roll!

[dknelson]

trust me, you might notice the Genesis on pictures but you are way too excited to be aware of it when you see the double header live and in person. 

Dave Nelson

[Lord Atmo]

DOH! there's that friggin genesis in the back!

[CNW 6000]

Reading this I'm glad that I control my schedule at work!  I think I see a couple of extra days off coming...

[JoeKoh]

hmm marking calendar..talking to boss......havent seen my niece in wisconsin for awhile.also want to show mamma the chicago version of 2 toots with carl and pat.maybe get to see bergie&company too.thanks for the information.hmmmmmm

stay safe

joe

[kschmidt]

Greetings,

I also hope the weather will be nicer than 2004.  Luckily we left the chase at Dakota, MN with train northbound.  I understand not long after that the rain came in buckets. 

According to 261 webpage, tickets should be available sometime this week.  Nothing yet.

Here are some photos from the 2004 edition of the #2816/#261 doubleheader

Southbound north of Minnesota City, MN on July 3, 2004

Northbound at Dakota, MN

Keith Schmidt

KC9LHK

[Lord Atmo]

oh my word! steam doubleheader in Wisconsin! YES! THANK YOU, CP! Lacrosse is not that far away! i can see this! this is perfect!

i have always wanted to see 261 as well. the one thing i'm dreading is CP putting a stinkin' P42 behind them and ruining the classic look of the train

[wjstix]

Wow!! Hope the tickets on the Minneapolis/Soo Line parts aren't too pricey. If nothing else, those runs (including the doubleheader along the Mississippi) will only be a few miles from my house so I can get some pics/video. Wow !!

[tatans]

And the price is. . . . . . . . ?

[blhanel]

//gets up to mark the calendar, calls brother in Cameron, WI

[CShaveRR]

Sensational news, Keith!  Wish I were in a position to see the doubleheader, but will look forward instead to at least seeing the CP engine on this end on Labor Day or the day after.

[kschmidt]

According to the Milwaukee Road #261 webpage http://www.milwaukee261.com/ the following International Steam event is coming this fall.

INTERNATIONAL STEAM EXCURSION FEATURING CANADIAN PACIFIC 4-6-4 # 2816 AND MILWAUKEE 4-8-4 # 261 AUGUST 17, 2007 TO SEPTEMBER 22,2007 SPONSORED BY THE FRIENDS OF THE 261 AND CANADIAN PACIFIC RAILWAY August 17-22,2007( PASSPORT REQUIRED) One way positioning move. Powered by CP 4-6-4 "Hudson # 2816 we depart on August 17 from Calgary, Alberta and journey across the Canadian prairie on what was once the route of the CP's famous "Canadian" streamliner. Ride in luxury premium class in the Milwaukee Road Super Dome #53 or Skytop Observation "Cedar Rapids".Comfortable Coach seating will also be available. Overnight stops will be made in Swift Current and Broadview,Sask. and a one-day layover will be made in Winnipeg. Then our train moves on to the former Soo Line main line, the route of the" Winnipeger". After an overnight stop in Thief River Falls,MN you will arrive in Minneapolis at CP Shoreham Shops on Aug 22. Hotels are not included in the price of the ticket however, Hotel information will be furnished. It will be the responsibility of the passengers to make their own reservation. August 29 - 30, 2007 (One Way positioning moves)2816 will journey on the main line that was once the route of the famed Milwaukee Road Hiawathas between Minneapolis and Chicago. On Aug.29 view the scenic Missississippi River Valley from the comfort of the train and pass through the famous bore at Tunnel City. After an overnight layover in the "Beer City", Milwaukee,WI ,ride the high-speed double track mainline into Chicago Union Station. Choose from Luxury Premium, First Class or Coach Class. Hotels are not included in the price of the ticket however, Hotel information will be furnished for the Milwaukee layover. It will be the responsibility of the passengers to make their own reservation. Please not that these are one way positioning moves. September 1-2-3, 2007 (Round trips each day.) On September 1-2-3 the 2816 will make round trips over the former Milwaukee Road main line from Franklin Park Metra Station to Sturtevant, WI including the freight line from Bensenville to Tower A-20. An optional BBQ lunch will be served at trackside in Sturtevant. Lunch tickets must be ordered at the time you order your train tickets. On Tuesday Sept 4th begin the journey back to Minneapolis with a one-way trip from Chicago to La Crosse, WI. After an overnight stay in this pleasant city in the "Hiawatha Valley" of the Mississippi, speed back to Minneapolis on the CP main line, arriving on Sept. 5. Choose from luxury premium class, first class or coach class accomodationsfor all trips. Hotel information will be furnished for LaCrosse, WI only. September 8-9 2007 (Round trips each day.) Plan to be aboard as the 2816 steams along former Soo Line routes out of CP Shoreham Shops in Minneapolis along the ex-Soo Line main line to Glenwood, MN. Enjoy this ride over freight only trackage as we cross the Crow River at Rockford and pass through "Soo Line" towns such as Buffalo, Annandale and Paynesville. At Glenwood 2816 will turn on the former Soo Line turntable, the first steam Locomotive in decades to use it. On Sunday Sept. 9, 2816 heads east along the original Soo Line route to Sault Ste. Marie with a round trip to Dresser, WI. Enjoy the scenery of the St. Croix River Valley and ride across the Soo" Low Bridge" over the St. Croix River. See the former Soo depots at Osceola, WI and Dresser, WI before the train turns on the wye at Dresser for the return to Minneapolis Shoreham Shops. Choose from luxury premium class, first class or coach class accomodations for all trips. September 15, 2007 STEAM DOUBLEHEADER Two steam locomotives running on the main line in 2007? It seems hard to believe, but #2816 will team up with Milwaukee Road #261 for a doubleheaded round trip along the Mississippi River Minneapolis to La Crosse, WI in what promises to be the steam event of 2007. Choose from Luxury Premium Class, First class or Coach Class accomodations. An optional BBQ lunch will be served at trackside at La Crosse. Lunch tickets must be ordered at the time train tickets are ordered September 16-22 PASSPORT REQUIRED(One way positioning moves) #2816 departs Minneapolis Sept. 16 for Calgary via Winnipeg, with overnight stops at Thief River Falls, Brandon,Manitoba Moose Jaw,Sask. and Medicine Hat Alta. A one day layover is planned in Winnipeg. You will have a choice of luxury premium class or coach class. Arrival in Calgary is on Saturday September 22, 2007. Hotels are not included in the price of the ticket however, Hotel information will be furnished. It will be the responsibility of the passengers to make their own reservation. GENERAL INFORMATION Passports will be required on all Canadian Excursions Tickets can only be ordered from the Friends web site, telephone orders or mail order. Please include a stamped, self addressed envelope if you are ordering by mail. Tickets will be mailed approximately three weeks prior to the excursion. We welcome disabled or handicapped passengers. However, because these are older cars, there are no special facilities available. Please call [phone] for additional information between 9:00 AM & 4:00 PM. Mail ticket orders to: Friends of the 261 4322 Lakepoint Ct. Shoreview, MN 55126 Firends of the 261 is not responsible for equipment substitutions and assumes no liability for inconvenience caused by delays. Light food service and souvenirs can be purchased in the concession car.

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Keith Schmidt

KC9LHK