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Posted by al-in-chgo on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:29 PM
 doghouse wrote:
 al-in-chgo wrote:

 

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Once at a BNSF division point I saw three adults (two of them women) and two children get out of an engine where the "front" door is. (Not counting the two employees.) Do modern "safety cabs" make it easier for "hitchhikers" to stow away?  And does every lav stink that bad? 

 

 

Where was the division point?  You ever been in a San-o-Can on a hot day?

 

Um, question no. 1 I would rather not answer.  I can say it was on July 4 weekend, hot but not insufferably hot (unless you're shut up in a steel box, I guess).  Question no. 2 -- who hasn't been picnicking, gone camping, attended a large public event with a temporary venue (huge rock concert for example), or otherwise in some way had to use the "wet latrine" setup?  P-U indeed!  Are there any other options in a loco cab--composting latrine, chemical toilet? 

 

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Posted by doghouse on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:49 PM
 al-in-chgo wrote:

 

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Once at a BNSF division point I saw three adults (two of them women) and two children get out of an engine where the "front" door is. (Not counting the two employees.) Do modern "safety cabs" make it easier for "hitchhikers" to stow away?  And does every lav stink that bad? 

 

 

Where was the division point?  You ever been in a San-o-Can on a hot day?

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:41 PM

 

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Once at a BNSF division point I saw three adults (two of them women) and two children get out of an engine where the "front" door is. (Not counting the two employees.) Do modern "safety cabs" make it easier for "hitchhikers" to stow away?  And does every lav stink that bad? 

 

 

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Posted by doghouse on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:08 PM
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 edblysard wrote:

Randy...

We all know GEs are sound, solidly built machines that don't vibrate, rattle or knock things apart....Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Mookie, the doors would not mean much more than lazy crew members who didn't feel like closing them, or as the Driver pointed out,  the odor might have been a little over ripe...wont cause any real damage other than the seat and floor getting dirty and wet if it rains...the computers are inside the back electrical cabinet, and the chances of them being damaged are slim...remember, these things are built for use by the lowest common denominator...us switchmen...so most of what is inside is built to be abused and misused.

Ed -

I have thrown some unwanted passengers (human and otherwise) out of locomotive cabs and their presence can render the atmosphere downright ripe...

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When I first started working where I do now, I was amazed at all of the hiding places unwanted people can find on locomotives.  As for smell no hiding place is safe, I'll find you.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:09 PM

Sis, it's definitely possible to walk from unit to unit while the train's in motion, though it can be quite a thrill at speed (I think about 45 is the fastest I ever did it).  Before locomotives were built with anticlimber platforms, they'd have drop-down walkways and chains that could be connected to provide the walkway.  You'll see those on units older than about the mid-1970s.

At one time, somebody on CNW got a crazy idea that it wasn't safe to go from unit to unit, and our road units began to appear without the walkways and chains.  This didn't last too long, as I'm sure other railroads were overjoyed at the prospect of encountering this (I remember a few times taking the step-to-footboard-to-footboard-to-step route).  By the time CNW started getting SD40-2s in 1973 and 1974, things were back to normal.

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:39 PM

Two thing I never forget on a road job...the Lysol spray,a pack of paper towels and a spray bottle of Febreze....when you consider my engineer is nick named Booger, well, let your mind run with it!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Limitedclear on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:22 PM

 

 

 edblysard wrote:

Randy...

We all know GEs are sound, solidly built machines that don't vibrate, rattle or knock things apart....Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Mookie, the doors would not mean much more than lazy crew members who didn't feel like closing them, or as the Driver pointed out,  the odor might have been a little over ripe...wont cause any real damage other than the seat and floor getting dirty and wet if it rains...the computers are inside the back electrical cabinet, and the chances of them being damaged are slim...remember, these things are built for use by the lowest common denominator...us switchmen...so most of what is inside is built to be abused and misused.

Ed -

I have thrown some unwanted passengers (human and otherwise) out of locomotive cabs and their presence can render the atmosphere downright ripe...

LC 

 

 

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 3:59 PM

Randy...

We all know GEs are sound, solidly built machines that don't vibrate, rattle or knock things apart....Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

Mookie, the doors would not mean much more than lazy crew members who didn't feel like closing them, or as the Driver pointed out,  the odor might have been a little over ripe...wont cause any real damage other than the seat and floor getting dirty and wet if it rains...the computers are inside the back electrical cabinet, and the chances of them being damaged are slim...remember, these things are built for use by the lowest common denominator...us switchmen...so most of what is inside is built to be abused and misused.

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:19 PM
Perhaps all of the door latches vibrated off .
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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 12:30 PM
Or the crews are so disgruntled that they could give a flying frac about whether or not the computers in the cab take a bath.
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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:59 AM

Why not?

We still see folks out for a walk on the veranda, especially when the engine consist has one that died en-route.

Perchance the potty is getting too arromatic in that GEVO and it doesn't burn methane gases?

Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Why?
Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:38 AM

I see so many things I just don't understand.  Maybe someone can answer this one.....

Saw two GEVO's leaving town on a loaded coal train - going north/east.  2nd motor had both the front and back door open.  Driver made a comment that I will have to clean up for the forum - maybe it needed airing. 

They were coming right out of the yard and they didn't stop to make a crew change, so any guesses as to why the doors would have been open? 

AND - can the conductor still make the trip back to the 2nd or 3rd motor w/o having to stop the train, or does safety dictate that he has to wait for the train to stop completely before going back there? 

Back to watching some more.

La Mook

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