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England's Strategic Steam Reserve: Did It Exist?

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Posted by Tulyar15 on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 1:46 AM
The strategic reserve myth was debunked in the 1980s!

A guy called Roger Hands produced a series of books called "What Happened to Steam" (one volume for each of the big four plus one volume for BR Standards). He managed to trace the ultimate disposal of just about every BR steam loco apart from a handful of LMS 8F 2-8-0's and GWR 0-6-0 Pannier Tanks. Not much of a strategic reserve.

The establishment at Box is in the process of being decomissioned - it was an underground base intended to be used in the event of WW3 breaking out. The standard gauge rail system was removed long ago but some parts of the narrow gauge network still survive.

One thing that may have revived these rumours is that in recent years surplus rolling stock has been stored at a number of military bases.

As for Sweden, I've got an idea they decided it would be better to have a strategic reserve of diesel locos than steam (and strategic fuel dumps). Hopefully this will mean some of their older GM Co-Cos (built in Sweden; GM/EMD did a deal with a Swedish builder in the 1950's and in the following decade supplied lots of these locos to several European countries including some of the Communists - some how these locos look good in the Communist ere Hungarian livery with a big red star on their noses!).

One country where a lot of steam locos are still dumped at variuos depots is Greece - these include a number of WW2 British army 2-10-0's and US Army 2-8-0. The Mid Hants railway imported some of these in the 1980's but problems with Greek bureaucracy have prevented any further imports. Still the Greeks have restored a couple of the 2-10-0's for use on railfan trips.
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Posted by Simon Reed on Monday, February 12, 2007 3:19 PM

No.

But that's my opinion.

There are certainly a lot of Ministry of Defence installations in the Box/Corsham area of Wiltshire (Devils will spill the beans since he lives nearby) BUT you have to remember that the UK is a very small and very densly populated country compared to yours.

To conceal something big - for instance a sizeable fleet of steam locomotives - would take a formidable amount of civil engineering. People here tend to react like scalded cats when the smallest of civic works are erected so I tend to think that someone would have noticed if a vast underground cavern had been created.

In addition, the end of UK steam was followed quite fervently by railfans and the breaking of more or less every locomotive post 1960 has been documented and witnessed.

You're right about Sweden though. They hid many of their redundant steamers in the middle of forests until the mid 70's when, presumably, they began to realise that in a nuclear winter you'd be lucky to get around on roller skates, and a fully functioning rail infrastructure was'nt going to happen.

Incidentally - Ken Barlow, as mentioned in the penultimate paragraph, is the longest serving character in the UK's longest running soap and not some significant figure in the cold war.  

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England's Strategic Steam Reserve: Did It Exist?
Posted by wallyworld on Monday, February 12, 2007 7:52 AM

I know that other countries had this program, if my memory serves me right, was'nt it Sweden that had one.? The engine at the Belfast and Moosehead is on of them...someone can correct this if I misappropriated braincells...Maybe some of our British compatriots can shed light on this....This was posted over in the UK for further speculation....If this is true, then the steam era has a very interesting and important postcript to it's ending.

Heard the one about the Strategic Reserve? A cosy little cold-war conspiracy to go with the notion that conspiracy theories just ain't what they used to be, and one to warm the cockles of every steam lover's heart.

The pitch: A transport infrastructure would need to be rebuilt following any nuclear winter eventuality and the fortunate survivors wouldn't be able to procure sufficient stocks of diesel fuel with which to run modern rail traction. Furthermore, the blast would probably knock out their solid-state electrical systems. Steam traction requires no such delicate technology to function, managing to do the business by dint of just water, homegrown coal and a match. Hence the persistent whispers pertaining to a government store of late-era B.R. steam locomotives supposedly mothballed for use in a post nuclear-holocaust scenariariario and stored in a secret cavern accessed from Box Tunnel.

It's a good story: the idea of these slumbering leviathans, long presumed scrapped but really living on in a secret subterranian existence; de-numbered, painted black and tended by fitters who have signed the Official Secrets Act. Sleeping sentinals resting in their dark cavern; greased, oiled and waiting for the day when they will stride out unchallenged into the desertified plains of what had once been Wiltshire. Rumours fed by old engineman stories from the 50's and 60's, often based around mysterious and unaccountable stock movements, with locomotives going missing from sheds and disappearing from records. Footplate crews relieved of their loco just a few minutes into their shift, sent home with a full day's pay and handing over to an unknown crew, never to see that crew nor that particular engine again.

Unfortunately, several people have noticed that there's no points inside Box tunnel and that there appears to be no connecting tunnel running off inside. And, apparently, First Great Western drivers haven't signed the Official Secrets Act. Aww, man...

Interest then focusses on another tunnel aperture alongside the eastern portal, a remnant from an old quarrying operation and used at some point as an ammunition store. Here, we are entering what has, indeed, just been revealed as an entrance to a massive secret underground government bunker. Well, it was declassified in December 2005, so it's not so secret any more, but the Burlington complex at Corsham really is impressive, not least by it's scale. The underground city was designed to form the seat of government after the bang and had facilities to house 4,000 civil-servants in it's air-conditioned and filtrated chambers. The site covers an area of over two-thirds of a mile and boasts a grid network of streets totalling an unbelievable sixty miles. The BBC Wiltshire pages even feature a video of a drive around on one of their electric buggies. It's sorta like James Bond, only a 1950's British Austerity version. Even the PM's Office has little in the way of fripperies. The MOD have a fine page of photo's here.

But what of the Strategic Steam Reserve? Could the leviathons from an older and, arguably, better age have been hiding here? If not now, then at any time in the past? Cynics will point to the dimensions just inside the old quarrying tunnel being too tight for large express engines. Okay for small tank engines hauling low two-axle wagons filled with ammo, but doubters have said that there's no way you could get a Bulleid Pacific around those sharp turns. Some of that rock could be polystyrene of course...

Well, for those who really want to believe, I found this. According to Russ' very credibly named witness, the SSR duly existed and was indeed stashed away here at Corsham, Wilts up until the mid 80's, when it fell victim to spending cuts under the evil Cruella de Thatcher and the decision was made to cut up all the remaining locomotion on-site then burn the steel away with strong acid, the steely-acidy solution being subsequently imbibed by Cruella as she danced a curious ritualistic pattern around the smouldering cauldron whilst chanting something about Ken Barlow.

Russ' persuasive photographic evidence notwithstanding, I am happy to make my own revelation. We do still have a strategic steam reserve. The bad news is that instead of the black shadow fleet of legend, it's blue with red stripes and someone's bolted an unconvincingly cheeky face to the smokebox door. The good news is that Pete Waterman says it's Tony's on the nod.

Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he needs more of it than he already has.

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