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Posted by M636C on Monday, January 22, 2007 2:52 AM
 pedromorgan wrote:

Hello there.

I am trying to track down ome drawings of a mallett that was built by alco in 1921 for the Pekin Suiyan Railway-China.

here is a pic.

Does anyone have any idea where the works drawings might be (if they still exist!) or any works photo's or infact any more information than i have listed here. this is all i have!

Thanks in advance.

Peter

 

This is the place to look!

http://www.crisny.org/not-for-profit/railroad/alcohisp.htm

They appear to have "erecting cards" available for some locomotives, but whether one is available for the Chinese 2-8-8-2 I do not know.

These were the second design of Alco 2-8-8-2 for the Peking-Suiyuan (also known as the Peking-Kalgan), the previous design being much lighter. This is the line that runs under the Great Wall of China at its closest point to Bejing and that is the section of line where these were used.

While they look very similar to the USRA locomotives of about the same period, they are much lighter than those which became N&W class Y-3. I have never seen drawings but I have seen other photographs of them. They lasted in service until the reclassification of locomotives by the Kuomintang after World War II and became class MA3 in Communist Chinese service. They were withdrawn before the only known list of Chinese locomotive dimensions and data was published.

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Posted by cprted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 9:07 PM
There is a fellow somewhere (yes I could get more vague), that has drawings of the various incarnations of the NW 2-8-8-2s (among many others) for sale for the purposes of building live steam models. Would those work? Is so, I'll try to track down the url.
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Posted by Datafever on Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:26 PM
Would the mallets made for the Pekin Suiyan Railway be significantly different from the 2-8-8-2s made for other customers?
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Posted by arbfbe on Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:23 PM
There was a business called Alco Historic Photos which worked out of a Library or Museum selling prints of Alco builders photos.  They also had a limited line of loco drawings available for sale.  Perhaps if you google for the business name or look in the ads in the back of Trains magazine you can find a link for the business.  It has been too many years since I ordered any photos from their extensive line.     
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ALCO drawings needed
Posted by pedromorgan on Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:45 AM

Hello there.

I am trying to track down ome drawings of a mallett that was built by alco in 1921 for the Pekin Suiyan Railway-China.

here is a pic.

Does anyone have any idea where the works drawings might be (if they still exist!) or any works photo's or infact any more information than i have listed here. this is all i have!

Thanks in advance.

Peter

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