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n012944 wrote:If that was all that it was the UP could have put a $0.01 royalty, and no one would have said a thing. Bert
Bert
I'd have paid a penny on every UP engine purchased. Wouldn't matter to me cuz any parts that said Union Pacicic get patched over anyway....
Seriously though protecting their name with a small (read as a couple/few cents per model) fee isn't that bad. Even a couple of dollars would have been a bit much IMHO. I'd never buy any UP models if I had to pay that kind of extra for the name.
Dan
yeah but at the same time, i dont want to pay more for HO CNW locomotives only to have it go to old UP locomotives. if UP was going to run old CNW stuff, i would pay extra royalties on all CNW products
besides, i'll take a CNW SD60 over 844 any day
Egads! Does this mean nay more Heritage units?
Say it ain't so, UP.
For the record, I had no problem with UP trying to protect its intellectual and real property, including their marks and trade dress. That's just good business. As I said in other posts, I had no problem with them collecting licensing fees if they used the money to keep alive its Historical Equipment program. Which eventually was announced.
O ye of little faith....at least two manufacturers have already announced that they have lowered the UP-related items back to the normal MSRP of non-UP-related items.
TheAntiGates wrote:It'll be REAL interesting to see if the prices at retail are actually reduced as a consequence of this
Have fun with your trains
regardless, i'm proud of UP for willing to do this. it shows they DO have a heart for their predecessors and respect for their history enough to let us model them with more ease. i'm modelling CNW and already own an athearn SD60 and C44-9W (which i have said way too much at this point, i'm sure. i just LOVE those models! LONG LIVE LOMBARD HOBBY!) and will likely buy more as i see more discounts. but because of this move by UP, i think i'm going to have to buy a UP locomotive too. as a ways of saying "thank you". ok i'm actually buying 3 UP locomotives. maybe even more. (an SD70M, DDA40X, and an FEF 3 to be renumbered "844")
bobwilcox wrote:If you do not control your name someone else may take for their own. It would not be a good thing if the Union Pacific, etc. name was owned by a lawyer in Wuhan.
If that was all that it was the UP could have put a $0.01 royalty, and no one would have said a thing.
An "expensive model collector"
Lord Atmo wrote:but it baffles me really. why did they try to get royalties? i would think all the freight they move would rake in more than enough money
but it baffles me really. why did they try to get royalties? i would think all the freight they move would rake in more than enough money
CopCarSS wrote: CSSHEGEWISCH wrote:Probably for daring to operate their railroad as a business. You mean that they don't exist exclusively for the purpose of meeting my railfanning needs? How dare they!
CSSHEGEWISCH wrote:Probably for daring to operate their railroad as a business.
You mean that they don't exist exclusively for the purpose of meeting my railfanning needs? How dare they!
they do a small bit of that though. like when they donated an SP SD45 to a museum. or how they sometimes run 844
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ah, this is a good move by UP. i have grown to better understand them and i can't say i hate them any longer. i AM angered that they patched all my beloved CNWs, but it isnt enough to hate them. they changed their own paint scheme enough to take the blandness out and maintain consistancy (yes i like the hood flags. i dont know why some people dont)
i can not find that article on the royalty stuff however (on UP's site at least). what is the status now? do toy train manifacturers now just need a license and permission from UP to make models of their power or predecessor power?
at the same time, UP is being a real sport about real trains and painting locomotives in predecessor schemes. apparently if they allow you to do it, they also will send you paint diagrams and paint mixing guides to aid you in this. i'd have to say that seems pretty nice!
thanks for doing this, UP. i'm serious.
and going off on another tangent, i saw some HO UP models with their new lightning stripe too. i gotta say that scheme change really looks great!
CopCarSS wrote:What ever shall the UP detractors around here complain about now?
Probably for daring to operate their railroad as a business.
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